Originally Posted By Manfried My understanding is Disney gets to put Star Wars and Indy in any and all parks for all time. Lucas gets like a million bucks per attraction per park. I don't think he is going to walk away from that deal. I think Disney should just purchase Lucasfilm and bring in someone like Joss Whedon to direct episodes 7,8 and 9.
Originally Posted By leemac <<IDK, I still think I would prefer Indy over, say, the same ride based on a Disney property (Dinosaur, for example).>> I must admit I've never got the lack of love for the original CTX (prior to the slowdown and the lack of maintenance). Don't get me wrong I'm obviously a big fan of IJA but there are elements of CTX that I prefer - particularly the humor (the pre-show load with Bill Nye and the pre-show has always been my favorite of all time), the AAs (when they work!) - particularly the chasing Carnotaurus and the in-ride dialogue which propels the story much better than Indy's phantom voice on IJA. I have a real soft spot in my heart for CTX - it is a must-ride when I'm at DAK.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Hans, I admire your faith, but from what I heard the Avatar deal was a total knee jerk reaction to getting kicked in the teeth by the snot nosed little wizard up the road.>> Firstly it is important to remember that Disney walked away from a deal with Rowling and WB - they balked at the cost (the licensing cost and the on-going royalty payments). A lot of development work had been done on the Disney version of Potterland before Rasulo pulled the plug. The belief was that Rowling and WB would shop the property to Uni as the next best thing as they wanted HP to exist in a theme park setting. Secondly it took Uni months to agree a deal with WB and effectively give away the house on it. There was no knee jerk reaction. Finally Avatar came about because of a meeting between Lightstorm and Disney's senior executive team (i.e. not led by WDP&R). Both Landau and Cameron thought that the world of Avatar should have a real-world existence and a Disney theme park made sense. Lightstorm have a lot riding on the next two films and keeping that momentum going is critical (don't forget Fox don't finance Cameron's films - same deal as Lucasfilm).
Originally Posted By sjhym333 My issues with CTX is that there are too many dark areas with nothing in them. From the first day I rode CTX...way before the park opened...till a month ago I when I rode it last I always think there are too many spots where nothing really happens visually. I also agree about the lack of maintainance.
Originally Posted By leemac <<From the first day I rode CTX...way before the park opened...till a month ago I when I rode it last I always think there are too many spots where nothing really happens visually.>> I can understand that - it has been exacerbated by the slowdown in the attraction speed and movement too. The design point for it was to maximise the claustrophobic feeling and to focus on the conveyance movement (typically the darker spots coincide with a higher degree of movement in the jeeps). I also don't think it quite works as well as it should.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper << This is where it gets all screwy - as there every character or group of characters needs to be named in the MLA. So Hulk is a specific character but The Avengers are not. Same for Fantastic Four - Storm is specifically named as are the Fantastic Four but Human Torch and The Thing aren't (for attractions). Disney probably could push for an Avengers attraction but they might be best to leave Hulk out of it.>> That's not the case, from the way I read it, Leemac. The contract states that characters represented, and all the characters from that character's family, are protected under the contract. So Hullk being represented makes the Avengers off the table.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Plus, there is the Captain America diner. Meaning you'd lose Hulk and Cap from an Avengers attractions.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Plus, there is the Captain America diner. Meaning you'd lose Hulk and Cap from an Avengers attractions.>> Captain America is designated for F&B only - he could be used by Disney for an attraction. <<That's not the case, from the way I read it, Leemac. The contract states that characters represented, and all the characters from that character's family, are protected under the contract.>> Take it from someone that knows the MLA intimately that that isn't the case. Specific characters are zoned for specific categories namely attractions, F&B and entertainment/streetmosphere. The contract is VERY restrictive for IoA but that worked for them as they didn't want to expand their MARVEL area beyond Opening Day.
Originally Posted By dshyates Captian America and Tony Stark/Ironman are both presant in IOA, just not in attractions. But it would be really weird to eat at Captain America Cafe at Universal's IOA and then ride a Captain America ride at WDW.
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ Total agree - but it is feasible. The issue would be that the Hulk is off the table for an attraction.
Originally Posted By Tiggirl <<Same for Fantastic Four - Storm is specifically named as are the Fantastic Four but Human Torch and The Thing aren't (for attractions).>> I hate to get all nerdy (no, actually I don't. LOL!) but Storm is not on the Fantastic Four. Sue Storm is. But Storm is a totally different character. She's on the X-Men team. So Disney could use the Fantastic Four. (Though they are one of my least favorite teams in the Marvel Wold) ~Beth
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ Teach me not to know my MARVEL characters! I'm no fan of Fantastic Four in anything I've seen so far - the two movies were awful.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Marvel characters and Disney Character existed side by side on the spinning comic book rack down at the Ben Franklin Five and Dime since the mid 60s at least.<< Ah! The wonderful world of crossovers! DC and Marvel were not above doing crossovers with each other either: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Present-Uncanny-X-Men-Titans/dp/B001GU2J9S/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1351271197&sr=1-3&keywords=Teen+Titans+Xmen" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Marvel-P...ans+Xmen</a> Back in the early 80's the X-Men were Marvel's hot property, while the Teen Titans were DC's top seller.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom There were two Fantastic Four movies? I must really be behind the times.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Captain America is designated for F&B only - he could be used by Disney for an attraction. << In Florida? Are you saying the only characters off the table for WDW are Hulk, Spider-man, Dr. Doom, and Storm?
Originally Posted By Blueusion As far a s Disney buying out Lucas. He will have to be on his deathbed to do that. He's not giving up his one creation or legacy that will be one of the most profitable of movie franchise. But if there is a agreement for Star Wars to be in pepaturity at Disney. They Need A Star Wars land where LMA and the backlot are. After seeing LMA for the 1st time and seeing Catastrophe Canyon and the back stage area . I never went back. In the back lot they had a lot of cool vehicles in the early days of the studios. They should have built a pavilion for all these things. When I 1st went when the studios opened . I got to see the spinner cop car from Blade runner and the chess table from Star Wars. Oh and I also got to see the helicopter from Blue Thunder. All these thing should have been put in a setting to where people could see them and appreciate the work that went into making them real on screen. It's sad. That no one has the vision that had 20 yrs. ago. Disney built the studio's so quickly to beat Universal to there opening and it was great when it opened. But for some like me I feel so sad the last time we went . It was like you want to experience the 1st time you see something and and realize as you get older that . They don't care and I just would rather do something else somewhere else.
Originally Posted By leemac <<In Florida? Are you saying the only characters off the table for WDW are Hulk, Spider-man, Dr. Doom, and Storm?>> Off the top of my head - there are the Spider-Man characters like Peter Parker, Doc Octopus, Hobgoblin and J. Jonah Jameson. Hulk I think is just Hulk. Then there are some X-Men characters like Magneto and Professor X (and Storm!). Uni only ever wanted to build the four Opening Day attractions (Hulk, Spidey and Freefall) - the X-Men thing was delayed (a year?) but was supposed to be there in '99. Uni has no rights to use other Marvel characters in attractions - none.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 There were two Fantastic Four movies? I must really be behind the times.<< You didn't miss much, in fact you were blessed because you didn't have to suffer through both travesties...
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ I was stupid enough to think that the second one couldn't be as much of a stinker as the first one - boy was I wrong. Best of luck Fox trying to reboot that franchise.
