Originally Posted By jdub Of course, K2, there's going to be more screaming that YOU MISINTERPRETED what wouldn't have even been included in the first place if it weren't part of the point. I'm not fooled, either.
Originally Posted By Labuda "even if was James Blunt standing naked infront of me I would have felt the same" I should hope so! Taht dude's just not attractive!
Originally Posted By JazzCat My apologies, bloona. I was in a bit of a snit last night and I think I took it out on you. I still don't understand, but I now know that you didn't mean any offense.
Originally Posted By bloona AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Ok, lets talk about my other point from post one then. THe group of women stood talking about one of them having a boob job, and asking for a closer look. Because it never crossed my mind for a second that some of you would put words in my mouth about me saying she shouldnt have been there bacause of her age and size, I never considered it an issue, I was just telling you a story. 3/4 of the people at the gym are over 50 when I go on a morning, we all have a good laugh together , but I dont want to see any of them, or the under 20 year old ones naked, I dont want to see ANYONE naked, I cant believe you think I have an issue, Ive re read my post and still dont see why some are thinking it. IT WASNT MY POINT!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy I'm all for nekkidness. After all, it was "in" to be nekkid until that danged serpent/apple thang happened.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka While I don't really care if people walk around nekkid, there is no way I'm going to do it. But I'm in really bad shape. LOL If I felt better about my body I would probably not have a problem with changing in front of everyone. But there is no way that I would stand around naked, just hanging out, chit-chatting with the people around me. I'd at least put on my underwear before making eye contact with anyone. ;-)
Originally Posted By bloona well, Ive been to the gym this morning and it was really quiet, so not a naked person in sight .......hurray......I could have even sneaked in the showers...........but I didnt.
Originally Posted By bloona Jazzcat, thank you so much for saying that, I do apologise profusely (sp) if anyone misread my post. I repeat again, that I was just painting a picture for you, the way I think all good stories should include as much information as possible, it was the size of her breasts inches away from my nose(I was sat down, she was standing) that I wanted to emphasise. I never said I was embarressed because she was a large woman, or because of her age, I said I felt that way because of her NAKEDNESS. I hope you see that now too jdub, not sure if post 40 was aimed at me or not. I feel like I am grovelling now anyway. So will stop going over the same points.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<it was the size of her breasts inches away from my nose(I was sat down, she was standing) that I wanted to emphasise.>> Thanks, bloona. That does help clarify your original post. I wonder if this is more an issue for women than for men? Even when I went to high school -- a million years ago -- the boys' locker room was a typical, stark open room with lockers, benches, and a big communal shower. The girls' room was outfitted with private showers and changing areas. Which seems counter-intuitive to me in a couple ways. In general, women seem more comfortable sharing personal things with each other than men do. Also, uh... it seems to me that it's men who reveal more of their unseen/unknown selves when they get naked. I mean, unless a woman wears something artificial in her bra, you pretty much have an idea what to expect when she gets naked, no? I think it's a good thing for people to see other naked people in real life. There is so much normal variation on so many parts of our bodies. Witnessing that helps us feel comfortable our own differences. How else would we learn about this natural fact? By seeing naked people only in magizines and movies? As IF they respresent a true cross-section of real bodies! I'm fairly modest myself. I use clothing to hide imperfections. Still, I find it sad that there's such a high level of discomfort with our own bodies and with others'.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<it was the size of her breasts inches away from my nose(I was sat down, she was standing) that I wanted to emphasise.>> Thanks, bloona. That does help clarify your original post. I wonder if this is more an issue for women than for men? Even when I went to high school -- a million years ago -- the boys' locker room was a typical, stark open room with lockers, benches, and a big communal shower. The girls' room was outfitted with private showers and changing areas. Which seems counter-intuitive to me in a couple ways. In general, women seem more comfortable sharing personal things with each other than men do. Also, uh... it seems to me that it's men who reveal more of their unseen/unknown selves when they get naked. I mean, unless a woman wears something artificial in her bra, you pretty much have an idea what to expect when she gets naked, no? I think it's a good thing for people to see other naked people in real life. There is so much normal variation on so many parts of our bodies. Witnessing that helps us feel comfortable our own differences. How else would we learn about this natural fact? By seeing naked people only in magizines and movies? As IF they respresent a true cross-section of real bodies! I'm fairly modest myself. I use clothing to hide imperfections. Still, I find it sad that there's such a high level of discomfort with our own bodies and with others'.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 ACK! I was trying to edit and hit "submit" instead. Sorry for the double post. "comfortable" = "comfortable with"
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy 'sokay, 'spector. We could all hear that twice. <Which seems counter-intuitive to me in a couple ways. In general, women seem more comfortable sharing personal things with each other than men do.> And I was *totally* thinkin' that just before I read that, lol.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>>I dont want to see any of them, or the under 20 year old ones naked,<<< Whoa whoa whoa - let's not get hasty here.
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >>Being completely BUTT NAKED in a bathroom where you assumed you would be alone is completely different than being completely covered up by a nursing baby. Your comparisons aren't accurate. It's like comparing going to the bathroom in a urinal to dancing naked in front of a bathroom mirror and someone walking in. For some reason it's just different.<< Yea it's just different in that a locker room is intended for being naked while changing whereas a bench in a crowded mall is not intended for people to expose themselves - even if they are nursing. There are showers there for a reason - unless you shower clothed....? This is too funny. I'm wrong and some sort of monster because I expect a woman in a crowded mall to try to cover herself while breastfeeding where it is not expected to see exposed breasts but it's a tragedy when someone changes...in a changing room? Why don't you "just move" out of the CHANGING room if you don't expect to see someone CHANGING? Geez....
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider Please note my last post regarding the whole moving thing was not directed to you Bloona but rather Kimrue who was quite hostile when talking about women nursing in another post where she berrated myself and others for saying a woman in a crowded mall who sat down next to someone already sitting on a bench and made no attempt to be discreet started nursing her child in front of him. I too get uncomfortable sometimes when in a locker room when a completely nude person in the middle of changing tries to converse with me....or worse start grunting as they put their clothes on. However, it is to be expected in them as that's what they're there for. It can be quite awkward though.
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider I wish there was an edit button. That first paragraph was awful in my last post. It should read: Please note my last post regarding the whole moving thing was not directed to you Bloona but rather Kimrue. She was quite hostile when talking about women nursing in another post where she berrated myself and others for saying a woman in a crowded mall, who sat down next to someone already sitting on a bench and made no attempt to be discreet started nursing her child in front of him, should've tried to have atleast used a blanket or found someone a bit more private if she couldn't cover up with something. It's still an awful run on sentence but atleast it's now a complete thought.
Originally Posted By bloona <<Which seems counter-intuitive to me in a couple ways. In general, women seem more comfortable sharing personal things with each other than men do>> you know I never thought of that, it's very strange when you look at it isnt it? I wonder why we do that? got me pondering now.
