Originally Posted By smd4 >>>The imagineers who designed the original building would disagree.<<< The actual designs of the original buildings that the Imagineers produced prove you wrong in the entirety.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Yes, let's have 30,000 different topics to have to click through and become robots so we that we never, ever let conversion run a natural course. That sounds like so much fun!!!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>I guess you also agree with me--but are afraid to say it.<< Yes I also agree with you, but it seemed much easier to agree with the post that was immediately above mine and summed up everything neatly into a couple sentences, rather than having to combine opinions from various posts on multiple pages. I'm glad we're all in agreement here on the issue at hand
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <The actual designs of the original buildings that the Imagineers produced prove you wrong in the entirety.> That makes no sense. The same imagineers who did such a fine job designing Main Street also designed the original First Aid building that looked less like MS than the new one does.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Yes I also agree with you, but it seemed much easier to agree with the post that was immediately above mine and summed up everything neatly into a couple sentences, rather than having to combine opinions from various posts on multiple pages. I'm glad we're all in agreement here on the issue at hand" C'mon. You're afraid to agree with smd4. Admit it. Once you conquer your fears, you will be a better adjusted person. If you disagree with smd4, you're either lying or not a real Disney fan.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Oh, you got me! I'm just afraid to agree. I always have been; it runs in my family. I'm sorry for the dishonor that I bring to this discussion board
Originally Posted By monorailblue Well, we missed 201 dalmatians. Here at LP, I say lets just take our posts happily wherever they land--there are so few any more, after all.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>"There's something called creating a topic, which some are too lazy and/or dumb to do." Or the conversation progresses, a tangent takes over naturally. It has nothing to do with being lazy or dumb and the boards don't have a rule against it.<< Well, it is a bit lazy. About as lazy as people who hit "friends request" to others on Facebook ... and can't be bothered to write a little introduction message that would take a couple minutes. That's all too hard in this 'just push 1 button, and you're in' world. Or just completely change topic, rather than create a new one. "NOOOO! THAT'S TOO HARD !!!!!" ;-)
Originally Posted By leemac <<If this is what DL's new first aid building looks like just imagine how incredibly fabulous the one in Tokyo must be! <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4kQv...3347.JPG">http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4kQv...3347.JPG</a> No, wait... it's hideous.>> What's so hideous? It is in the transition from World Bazaar to Adventureland (POTC is to the right of that image and Eastside Cafe to the left). Architecturally it blends in to its surroundings even if it isn't the most spectacular design.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I don't think that area of the park is ugly, but it's certainly a little odd. The massing of the buildings and windows are pretty dated (you can tell it was built in the early 80's) and it feels oddly urban for the jungle or a Midwestern-ish town, but it works for the transition that they need If you want an ugly space in TDL, look no further than the equivalent space on the opposite side of World Bazaar, where the art deco portion of the street meets up with the groovy 70's Tomorrowland Terrace, the Monsters Inc building, and the Norman Foster-esque Star Tours building. That area's just a mess! (it's so ugly that there aren't even any decent photos out there showing what the whole area looks like) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://land.allears.net/blogs/jackspence/Tomorrowland%20Entrance%204.jpg">http://land.allears.net/blogs/...%204.jpg</a> <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OO7WbmARD08/SXzKpkrvkmI/AAAAAAAAOH0/x5Oqenfue-M/s400/tokyo+2.jpg">http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OO7W...yo+2.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Good heavens... What's the first building? It looks like a fancy Walmart or Target big box store!
Originally Posted By leemac <<I don't think that area of the park is ugly, but it's certainly a little odd.>> It is an incredibly difficult transition from WB to Adventureland. There is a restroom in that complex too which is needed as WB doesn't have any (outside the restaurants). Sometimes it is better to go with a simple almost anonymous transition rather than attempt to fit it to the two architectural styles. I'm not sure it could be better.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Is that the entrance to WB from Tomorrowland? I've only been to TDL once and I can't recall what that facade looks like.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros It's the side of World Bazaar (the cross street connects from Adventureland to Tomorroland), and is actually 2 different buildings with a walkway under the big icon thing. The transitions to Tomorrowland are awkward in all of the parks (DLP does it best), but this one is particularly bad!
Originally Posted By leemac <<If you want an ugly space in TDL, look no further than the equivalent space on the opposite side of World Bazaar, where the art deco portion of the street meets up with the groovy 70's Tomorrowland Terrace, the Monsters Inc building, and the Norman Foster-esque Star Tours building. That area's just a mess! (it's so ugly that there aren't even any decent photos out there showing what the whole area looks like)>> I adore that Art Deco rosette that used to face Meet the World. Again it is a very difficult transition to go from Victorian to the future. Meet the World was meant to be the transition space but it just wasn't possible to conceive anything more suitable once Ride and Go Seek was approved. I also love the Star Tours building. It is meant to be a futuristic hangar and its scale just works for TDL's Tomorrowland (and blocks out the official hotels that used to be visible before ST). That stretch could use a more unified vision - particularly the blob that is the Pan Galactic Pizza Port, Soft Landing and Popping Pod - but it is very difficult to do so in an operating park.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Sometimes it is better to go with a simple almost anonymous transition rather than attempt to fit it to the two architectural styles." I agree. My main point was to show that not everything Disney has produced since 1955 is perfection. There's a group of fans who routinely argue that Disney's aesthetics have taken a turn for for the worse in recent years when there's plenty of examples of how cutting corners on design at the parks is nothing new.
Originally Posted By leemac <<There's a group of fans who routinely argue that Disney's aesthetics have taken a turn for for the worse in recent years when there's plenty of examples of how cutting corners on design at the parks is nothing new.>> I get that. I wasn't going to wade into this debate but I can understand why fans are upset by the drawbridge. That ironwork is very jarring - irrespective of it being a small component of the overall castle. It should have been more appropriate for the architecture. It looks very modern to me. I will say that the thing that disappoints me the most about recent DL changes is that everything seems to be character-based rather than reinforcing the generic conceits of each land. Jolly Holiday Bakery is better than an empty or under-utiized space but I really dislike the Mary Poppins characters being shoehorned into Main Street. Just my two cents.
