Originally Posted By disneywatcher ^ I would think the Wonders of Life pavilion would be more of a crowd pleaser than Golden Dreams, even if the latter were better or more elaborate than a movie with two talking Whoopi heads. In other words, if one of the major features of Epcot's Future World ends up kind of a flop -- far more than I'd ever have imagined -- then Golden Dreams seems even less deserving of everyone going through the trouble and expense of moving it from one part of DCA to another.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ I believe the reason that Wonders of Life closed was because Met Life did not renew it's sponsorship of the pavilion. WoL had certainly become less popular in recent years. In my opinion that was largely because people had become bored with its major draw -- Body Wars.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I would think the Wonders of Life pavilion would be more of a crowd pleaser than Golden Dreams>> WoL was a crowd pleaser of sorts when it was new, but it, along with a lot of Future World, is way past its prime.
Originally Posted By spacejockey >>still like Cranium Command, but the rest of the pavillion is a bust.ommand >> Have you ever had a boyfriend?
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney WoL was indeed shuttered because it, like many attractions at WDW today, lacked sponsorship. But BodyWars is no more outdated than Honey, I Shrunk the Audience is. As to the Kevin Yee photos, Disney has taken every reference to the pavillion's existence out of its published brochures, resort TV, books, marketing etc ... no one knows it exists. It's not even on current park guidemaps. And it is hidden away off the beaten path between Energy and Space. Those are the main reasons why there were no crowds,not because people have grown tired of the attractions. Body Wars is just Star Tours ... and people still wait for that one (shakes head).
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I didn't realize WoL closed completely. That's a shame. I agree that except for Cranium Command, there wasn't much there of interest - but certainly it's an intriguing subject with a lot of potential. Too bad they couldn't have looked to an emerging gen-tech company for sponsorship (for all I know, of course, maybe they did). These are growth companies, and maybe one of them could have implanted itself in the public imagination by taking the sponsorship. I have to disagree that Body Wars was just Star Tours, though. Superficially yes, but in terms of the actual experience, no. Star Tours was so much fun when it opened, and it's still good for an occasional ride (which is all I get anyway). Body Wars, from the very first time I rode it... it just seemed "off" somehow. Sorta like Indy and Dinosaur - same technology, same track even... and yet the execution makes all the difference.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think not having the robot in Body Wars makes you feel like you aren't as "in" the action. It is basically just another video attraction, but you move too. With ST, you watch a video, but it seems like the robot, who talks to you, is really controlling it. It makes you feel much closer to what it going on.
Originally Posted By Kylesmom >>Have you ever had a boyfriend?<< No, Kyle was an immaculate conception, bow down and worship him. Are you kidding?
Originally Posted By Kylesmom What does that have to do w/ not being impressed by WoL? So unless you're joking, you're treading on insulting ground for no reason I can fathom.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Saying as it is closing in WDW for not having enough of a draw to a park that already has plenty of people, I highly doubt it.
Originally Posted By thethe1 >>'Golden Dreams' and 'Seasons of the Vine' are two hidden gems in the park.<< Jems??? I hope you don't sell real gems for a living!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Jems??? I hope you don't sell real gems for a living!>> I'd buy diamonds from Jim in Merced long before I'd buy them from you.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I think had the original "Circle of Hands" AA revolving theater idea gone through .. It wouldn't have brought much more people in ... with the current set-up at DCA. Considering the attractions, theming surrounding Golden Dreams ...... DCA's overall attendance figures for the past 4 years ....... of course, it's not going to be much a draw, as DCA (as a whole) has not had much interest. Now ..... had Anaheim's Second Gate been a completely different concept with the quality we have all come to expect in a Disney park .. I think "Circle of Hands" would have been very successful. And I think "Golden Dream's" script is pretty good. I think it's pretty good film. There's just hardly any repeat value. And on the argument - That a larger scope with the same 'script' doesn't sound right. Given the ability to have a multi-media presentation .. That would have had the designers go off in a different direction altogether. I think. I feel a project would just have a completely different direction, with hands less tied behind one's back.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros But at the same time, if Circle of Hands had happened, there wouldn't be as many criticisms. One of the main problems that people originally had was the lack of Disney-style totally envolved full-lenght AA attractions. Clearly if COH had gone through, there would be much less merrit to that argument. I don't think that it would have solved all of the problems, but I think that DCA would have a much better reputation in the eyes of the public if it had something really amazing in the traditional Disney way on opening day.
Originally Posted By 9oldmen >>I think had the original "Circle of Hands" AA revolving theater idea gone through .. It wouldn't have brought much more people in ... with the current set-up at DCA. Considering the attractions, theming surrounding Golden Dreams ...... DCA's overall attendance figures for the past 4 years ....... of course, it's not going to be much a draw, as DCA (as a whole) has not had much interest.<< Doesn't "American Adventure" regularly fill its 1000 seat theatre, and that's after almost a quarter century? And it's in one of the most remote and hard to get to locations in the park.Of course there are other factors, like Epcot just getting better attendance, but what if it was just a 25 minute movie? Something tells me things would be much different.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I don't think that it regularly fills the theater. I think it is almost always at least half full, but not very close to completely full. Part of its problem is that the shows are only every hour, and are very out of the way from just about everywhere. The only time I have ever seen it, we just happened to be hitting everything right, starting in Canada and checking out every pavillion along the way. I think the longest wait we had was about 10 min for the film in France. I don't know how it worked, but it was very cool. If you were to just miss the show, you probably wouldn't go back, because it is very out of the way and there isn'n much around, except shopping. It is a great show and is clearly capable of packing people in, but it suffers from its location.
Originally Posted By danyoung I've never looked at the location of the American Adventure as being lousy. The average tourist will go around the World Showcase at least once, and thus will pass by the pavilion. And it's so incredibly easy to fill up 30 to 45 minutes in the surrounding pavilions, and then walk back a few steps to see the show. I see it at least once a trip, and have never been overly inconvenienced by either the location or the showtimes.
