Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<That's true too, with all the good things that could have been in the film about Cali history they would need to show how evil those white people are.>> It was primarily Chinese who did the hard labor of building the railroads. I would also have to consider completion of the railroads one of the most significant events in California history. Now a person could get to California in days rather than the months it took to get there by sea. If you remember, the transcontinental railroad was completed before the Panama Canal existed, so the only other option was an extremely dangerous journey around Cape Horn. So how is this not significant??
Originally Posted By thethe1 >>Funny, some people complain that Disney glosses over negative events. You on the other hand, want to ignore them altogether.<< Some people (libs who hate America)I know would love to make it all the evil white man, but this is Disney it should be about the greatness of Cali not that we have faults (we all have them)
Originally Posted By thethe1 >>It was primarily Chinese who did the hard labor of building the railroads. I would also have to consider completion of the railroads one of the most significant events in California history<< We agree you have made my point for me, thank you.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<you have made my point for me>. No, he didn't. You're point is is that there are too many Balck people in the film, and that white people are demonized. No one has agreed with you on those two things at all.
Originally Posted By Nobody From post 119: ">>Whoopie's appearance in many of the scenes.<< That's a big part of it, first of all Whoopie is a black racist and since she is the Queen of Cali in the film I guess she represents what Disney feels is California." I rest my case. Council for "thethe1" may now plead insanity and we can all retire. (I wonder it we've ever read any of thethe1's ramblings under one or more different screen names prior to 2006?)
Originally Posted By thethe1 >> you've got a bigoted view, and people are calling you on it.<< Show me how it's bigoted? If I made a film of New Orleans Jazz and put mostly white people from San Diego in it and made it seem they not the black people found jazz would that be ok? Think, I know it's easy to go right for the race card but try to think before you talk it's fun you might like it.
Originally Posted By thethe1 >I rest my case. Council for "thethe1" may now plead insanity and we can all retire<< Why black people can not be racist? That seems racist to me.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Show me how it's bigoted?>. It's bigoted because I have asked you to provide evidence that there are too many Black people in the film, and you can't. instead, you start a straw man argument that white people are demonized in the film, which is also not the case. <<Think>> Yes, you might want to try that someday.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Anybody can be racist. The trouble is that, aside from Whoopi, there really aren't that many black people in the film. Certainly not "disproportionate numbers" or "mostly." So your primary premise is simply not supported.
Originally Posted By thethe1 >>No, he didn't. You're point is is that there are too many Balck people in the film, and that white people are demonized. No one has agreed with you on those two things at all.<< It's Not that there are two many black people in the film, it's the level of influence they hade on the growth of California that is not true, and the level of other groups like Europeans, Asians, Mexicans is diminished. I wonder If I said the influence of whites was on Calif history was over done if the libs would be going nuts about that LOL
Originally Posted By Kylesmom If you didn't want to come off as racist, you should have said the film was revisionist because it minimized the importance of the Asian and European populations instead of complaining about the "black people" in the film. Oh, and I know of some "libs" that would take offence at being told they don't love America. Statements like that give the rest of us Republicans a bad name.
Originally Posted By thethe1 >>It's bigoted because I have asked you to provide evidence that there are too many Black people in the film, and you can't.<< Again, think! It's not the number of blk actors its what groips have done in the past to make Cali what it is and sorry but Mexicans have done far more then black people to make california what it is.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<It's Not that there are two many black people in the film, it's the level of influence they hade on the growth of California that is not true>> Once again... HOW?? Examples please. As I said before, I don't even remember black people in the film, so how was their influence exaggerated?
Originally Posted By thethe1 >>minimized the importance of the Asian and European populations instead of complaining about the "black people" in the film.<< Think.................. see if you make up things for one group that was not true you diminish what other have done. Is that really that hard to understand?
Originally Posted By danyoung thethe1, you continue to talk concept, when I think people are really wanting you to talk specifics. Give examples of overly influencing blacks in the movie, and we'll all go from there.
Originally Posted By Kylesmom It's not hard to understand, I'm just trying to explain why you come off sounding like a biggot.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<the level of other groups like Europeans, Asians, Mexicans is diminished>> I don't know why I bother to ask, but... how so? You have yet to answer specifically how and where in the film Blacks are shown to have had major influence on the history of the state, moreso than any other group Until you cite these examples, everyone is going to "play the race card," because you are coming across as a racist.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<It's Not that there are two many black people in the film, it's the level of influence they hade on the growth of California that is not true>> And how does the film exaggerate their influence, exactly? Specifics, please.
Originally Posted By thethe1 >>Examples please<< When I saw the film with friends when DCA first opened we all laughed because it was so bad. You will need to get me a scrimpt so I can go line by line with you to show what a joke it is as history.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<When I saw the film with friends when DCA first opened we all laughed because it was so bad. You will need to get me a scrimpt so I can go line by line with you to show what a joke it is as history.>> So in other words, you have no freaking clue.
