Originally Posted By TDLFAN Well.. I thought Leemac had mentioned something about the TDL Hotel being planned as far back as the late 90s?? Or maybe it was something posted on another site...
Originally Posted By TDR_Fan << it would make sense for something similar with the new Disneyland Hotel (particularly since it's more expensive>> Funny thing, I actually find the rooms at the Tokyo Disneyland Hotel to be a huge bargain compared to the overpriced rooms at the MiraCosta. Most of the rooms at the new hotel seem to be in the 50,000-60,000 yen range, which is a very good deal in my opinion. I paid about 112,000 yen for a suite at the MiraCosta; looking at the price chart of the new hotel, I could find a similarly sized room for about half that price! It's a steal, at least for me.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Not everyone is filthy rich like you TDR_Fan... so no, they are not bargains. The TDL Hotel will be as overpriced as the Miracosta and the Ambassador.
Originally Posted By Mr X Envy becomes you, TDLFAN. The key phrase was "a huge bargain compared to"...a fully decked out Cadillac is a huge bargain compared to a Lamborghini, whether or not you consider both to be pricy. And as for the original assertion that the MiraCosta is overpriced, all I have to say is location, location, location. And yes, even compared to the new TDL hotel the MiraCosta location is far superior.
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara It's only superior if your idea of heaven is gazing out your window at Mount Prometheus--and I believe that describes you. For many others, staying in the new hotel promises, if our suspicions are correct, a direct entrance into Tokyo Disneyland. I'll take that any day.
Originally Posted By Mr X I couldn't care less about the dedicated entrance thing, honestly. I never show up at opening time anyway. And yes, I do love the view of the volcano...that's part of the reason I love that little Italian restaurant. Is there something wrong with that? I'd rather gaze out the window at that than some ugly TDL parking lots and the roof of ugly world bazaar any day.
Originally Posted By TDR_Fan I only wish that the entrance for hotel guests was more exclusive and private like the MiraCosta's or the Grand Californian's. This seems like it will just be a turnstile or two reserved for hotel guests, placed right beside the normal turnstiles. Aside from the morning rush, I would wager that the private entrance would not be of much use during the slower parts of the day. The best part about the MiraCosta's entrance is that it's extremely convenient (30 seconds from the elevators) and saves a lot of time. The exclusive hotel guests only turnstile for the Tokyo Disneyland Hotel doesn't seem to offer the same plusses except to save a few minutes waiting with the normal guests during park opening. Regarding the hotel's location, I think it's a great spot. It's kind of disappointing that it can't offer the same park views as the MiraCosta, but like Mara said, it is just a 5 minute walk to Tokyo Disneyland. This new hotel will be all about magic and fantasy, while the MiraCosta can retain it's opulence and elegance. Being a DisneySea fan, I'll always take the location of the MiraCosta, of course. Staying in a Mediterranean Harbor is just immersive beyond any other Disney hotel, regardless of whether the Italian setting is to your taste. That being said, I have plans to stay at both in mid-July. I can't wait!
Originally Posted By TDR_Fan << couldn't care less about the dedicated entrance thing, honestly. I never show up at opening time anyway. And yes, I do love the view of the volcano...that's part of the reason I love that little Italian restaurant. Is there something wrong with that? I'd rather gaze out the window at that than some ugly TDL parking lots and the roof of ugly world bazaar any day.>> Well said. The views are just one of the many reasons why the MiraCosta's my favorite Disney hotel. After the ugly parking lot view I had at the Grand Californian, I can't wait to see the beauty of Mediterranean Harbor again from my room. Oh, and that lovely Porto Paradiso background music is heaven to my ears! I always have the windows open 24/7.
Originally Posted By Mr X Don't worry. I'll be too drunk to care. One thing I think is cool about the MiraCosta is that, as far as I know, there are NO "bad views" like TDR_Fan points out. I checked out the view from one of the entrance side rooms, and while I would prefer a harbor view it was very, very cool in its own right and being able to see the "open dash" and all the characters strolling around all day, not to mention the awesome aquasphere, is way cool.
Originally Posted By TDR_Fan I had one of those AquaSphere rooms the first time I stayed there. The view was great and already beat any view I had in a Disney hotel (though the lagoon views at the resorts around the Magic Kingdom in Florida are amazing too, I prefer park views). Hearing the AquaSphere BGM all day and night was a neat plus, and I still got to admire the backside Tuscany-style architecture of the MiraCosta. Even the rooms that face towards the main entrance of the hotel offer quite a nice view, with nice landscaping along with several marble statues reminsicent of classic Roman gardens.
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara I also had the Aquasphere view last October. It was indeed neat to leave the window open and hear the music with the splash of the water all the time.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Is it possible that they are adding the new structure just as a visual transition between the concrete wasteland and the massive hotel? It seems like they needed something to connect the hotel, station and park, but the park just didn't really have much to make a reference to. Since they were clearly meant to be related, it would only make sense that they would do something more specific to show the relationship. I suspect they will just add a few more turnstyles in the new area without making a special way for the hotel guests to enter early.
Originally Posted By TDR_Fan True, as the new structure does take the place of the former entrance gardens (which are sorely missed by the way). Hopefully, it will beautiful the entrance area even if only by a minute amount.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Is it possible that they are adding the new structure just as a visual transition between the concrete wasteland and the massive hotel? It seems like they needed something to connect the hotel, station and park, but the park just didn't really have much to make a reference to. Since they were clearly meant to be related, it would only make sense that they would do something more specific to show the relationship. I suspect they will just add a few more turnstyles in the new area without making a special way for the hotel guests to enter early." But isn't the Tokyo Disneyland Station in the way there? It's not like you could see the hotel if you were standing by this new structure, because the monorail station would be right in the way looking back toward the hotel. And, from the hotel, you would see the station too, if you were looking at the park. so, I have no idea what this thing is. Maybe it is just something to make the area more attractive? We can only wait and see....or wait for someone in the know to tell us what it's for!
