Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Pet peeve... 'You can't judge an attraction from a YouTube video or online pictures.' Well, I do!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<My personal favorite is when fans defend any change with the line "Disneyland will never be finished." As if that is defense enough for any and all changes that can possibly be imagined.>> Great one. But the fans get that from Disney PR ... everytime anything gets opened, closed, added or changed at DL (or WDW etc ...) that line gets dredged up. I'm sure by now even Walt is tired of hearing it!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<With that said, the only thing I have ever found wrong with a fan is when one thinks he is better than other fans. Sometimes they think they're better because they're more knowledgeable. That's annoying. >> I don't know if being more knowledgable makes you a better 'fan.' It simply means you have more knowledge. That is usually a good thing no matter the subject, although it gets annoying when I see 'kid geeks' studying the parks down to their tiniest detail. I kinda think the whole fun aspect gets tossed out the window in order to find some tiny detail hidden off somewhere. <<And the internet has just made it all the worser. Jab. Hide. Jab. Hide. Jab. Hide.>> I think the Internet has created and helped perpetuate some unhealthy lifestyles and behaviors. It's why I think everyone should take a break from this site and any other online site (Disney or not) they digest regularly. I have seen the Internet totally warp peoples' perspectives and self-images. People who have no social skills whatsoever in the real world and would never even approach a celebrity Imagineer like Joe Rohde (who would likely hate that I called him that) use the Internet to allow their egos to grow or be fed based upon posting words (or pictures) and engaging in discussions. Of course, this isn't really a pet peeve with the Disney 'fans' so much as it is the whole world in this My Space, FaceBook, era ... people can use the WWW to mask all their social phobias and issues. But now I've really digressed ... Anyway, my next peeve: 'fans' who have bad experiences at parks, restaurants and resorts but won't complain because 'it's Disney.'
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Jack was the official voice of WDW. He was the one you heard on WDW Radio welcoming you to the Vacation Kingdom of the World as soon as you left Kissimmee's cow pastures behind. He was the one who helped plan your day with up to date hours and information. And then his voice was featured all over the resort. Jack Wagner was The Voice of WDW.>> If I'm not mistaken he also recorded the spiel on the Trams at MCO. <<But one can also be a casual fan who enjoys the surface and chooses not to look too closely, either because they don't have time or they don't want to shatter the illusion.>> Bingo. <<With that said, the only thing I have ever found wrong with a fan is when one thinks he is better than other fans.>> Yup. And some comments to the contrary, I don't think that the Spirit ever does that.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "If I'm not mistaken he also recorded the spiel on the Trams at MCO." He also did the voice work on the gate to my grandma's neighborhood. Sure, he was great and all, but I really have trouble thinking that he's much more than a nice sounding voice.
Originally Posted By MPierce ...However, I wouldn't mind slowly choking the life out of some Disney Geek when they said, "What would Walt do".
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 I hear Jack Wagner every day that I go to work. I have Mouse World Radio on my pc, and at 8 every morning he welcomes me to WDW. There are days at work when I couldn't make it through without my Disney parks music & attractions. Yes I know I'm pathetic.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>I hate when you casually mention you would like to Japan/France/Hong Kong to see the Disney park there(okay, maybe not HK)and people jump on you because you have the audacity to spend your own money and apparently don't want to see anything else in that country.<< Years ago I had an unexpected weekend in Paris. Never had been to Paris, but there it was. And I spent half a day at Disneyland Paris. I can pretty much neatly divide my circle of friends into two groups. One group says, "You had just one weekend in Paris and you went to Disneyland?" And the other group says, "You had a weekend in Paris and only spent half a day at Disneyland?"
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Jack was the official voice of WDW.<< Yes, he was. But he is universally known as "The Voice of Disneyland." Try a Google search, and you'll see what I mean. (There is no one known as "The Voice of Walt Disney World," but if there was, it would certainly be the talented and ubiquitous Jack Wagner.) >>As to the 'Disney personalties' you mention, I guess maybe you think they're not open to shots like anyone else?<< No, I don't. And certainly not cheap shots. But I do think they, like anyone else, are open for warranted criticism. >>I like Marty... The recent criticism that has been leveled at him is richly deserved.<< Yes, but not the uncharacteristic cheap shot that opened this thread. >>As to Dave Smith ... He's a troubled spirit and I really get creeped out by the worship that some fans give him.<< I disagree that the only available choices are "creeped out" or "worship." Or, as a much older but wiser person said in Post #20: >>Too many people think in very simple terms: black or white, good or bad...<<
Originally Posted By DlandDug Another pet peeve: Fans who believe that just because something is older, or more "original" it is inherently better.
Originally Posted By leobloom >>One group says, "You had just one weekend in Paris and you went to Disneyland?" And the other group says, "You had a weekend in Paris and only spent half a day at Disneyland?">> I'd be in the former group. As much as I enjoy Disney's American parks, the only way I'd spend time at Disney overseas is if I was living in Paris, Tokyo or Hong Kong for an extended period of time. Or if I had the luxury of travelling overseas regularly, then I'm sure I'd try out Disney's foreign offerings. There's just something about going overseas to surround oneself in American culture that disturbs me. It's like going to Moscow and eating at McDonald's. I'm probably in the minority here, but that's how I see it. Then again I'm a person who would spend all day at the National Gallery, so I'm probably not the typical Disney consumer.
Originally Posted By RollenMac >>Another pet peeve: Fans who believe that just because something is older, or more "original" it is inherently better.>> I hear ya!
Originally Posted By RollenMac I have another one. Fans that want to spend no time planning their Disney vacation because vacations should never require an effort. Yet, are upset when they are exhausted, irritated, and mad that they did not get to do much of anything at the parks during their vacation.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA It's interesting about the 'older' being 'better' Better of course is in the eyes of the beholder. For me, it sort of works out that way. I like the older stuff more than the new stuff... I like 'Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland' better than 'Big Thunder Mountain.' To me, 'Carousel of Progress' was better than 'America Sings' 'CircleVision 360' was better than 'Buzz Lightyear' ride. 'PeopleMover' was better than 'Rocket Rods' 'Walt Disney's Enchanted Tiki Room' is better than 'Under New Management.' 'Swiss Family Treehouse' is better than 'Tarzan's Treehouse.' 'Mission to Mars' is better than 'Redd Rockett's Pizza Port.' 'Tomorrowland Theater' was better than 'Homey, I Shrunk the Audience.' 'Country Bear Jamboree' was better than 'The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.' 'Seasons of the Vine' is better than a 'DCA Preview Center.' Now, I've not actually seen the DCA Preview Center, but I can safely say that I like 'Seasons of the Vine' better.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA One more... 'Pirates of the Caribbean' [at Disneyland -- the original older one] is better than 'Pirates of the Caribbean' in Florida's Magic Kingdom. I like the shops in the parks, back when they had more than Disney stuffed animals, corny T-shirts, and character related stuff. The 'older' stores [I'm thinking of the ones in New Orleans Square in particualr] had interesting things to look at and buy.
Originally Posted By DlandDug There are many older things I like better. There are some newer things that simply are better. My pet peeve is fans who believe that the older "originals" are inherently better, for no other reason than that they are older.
Originally Posted By leobloom >There are some newer things that simply are better.> Isn't that an example of "Too many people think in very simple terms: black or white, good or bad.."
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Isn't that an example of "Too many people think in very simple terms: black or white, good or bad.."<< No, as it isn't a qualified statement. In context, it was simply a comparison.
