Originally Posted By tashajilek I never said to prove a disability ever! The thing i said was when you RENT a chair to have proof that you are the person who paid for the chair. Not have kids steal the chairs of others who paid for it! The cast member i was talking to said most kids will not pay out of their own pocket to use a chair but use someone elses that was just left by the entrance.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance tasha, the Jonas brothers are grown MEN, thank you very much.
Originally Posted By ksargen Even at DCA, where things were built to better accessibility standards, there are issues. Take a good look at the way the queue works for CS - there's a totally different lane for the wheelchairs. It's got traffic going every which way - one line for wheelchairs and single riders, another for FP, and a third path for the average joe. I've been there on light weekends when the lines went everywhere, simply because it is a traffic CF. *LOL* The elevators to switch sides are not a big help, either, as they're slow, and take a lot of load / unload time just to use them. There should have been some consideration given to this in the overall design, but it just didn't happen. Other rides are as messy or worse. The accessible path for GR is back up an exit, if I remember correctly, and not real fun. Then again, I remember DL back in the days when there were very few folks in wheelchairs who could ride any of the rides. Improvements have been made, but it's still a serious work in progress.
Originally Posted By lesmisfan actually wheelchairs go in the same way that the average joe goes unless they have some sort of special stamp. very few get to bypass the line
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 The solution is very simple to this problem. The person with the disability picks the ride they want to go on, say Splash Mountain, and if there is a 120 minute wait, that person is placed in an Airconditioned room with his family for that time period, the minute that time is up, they may leave the room and go on the ride, using the exit or whatever way handicapped people normally use... Disney would really only need 4 or 5 rooms as each land would have one for all the attractions in that area... They could use FP if they desired, but sitting in the room would be the same as standing in line, and if they do it for all attractions, would be a positive solution. This is legal, and would make it fair across the board, and magically, if implemented probably drop the number of abusers down to zero.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "probably drop the number of abusers down to zero." That would be a good idea.
Originally Posted By Malcon10t Interesting part of this is BLAB is wheelchair accessible. Wheelchairs wait in the regular line until they reach the front, then go through the door. So, if the boys went through the FP line, they had a fastpass. Unfortunately, many people ASSUME that because someone looks fine, they are faking. They make MANY assumptions about people that aren't fair. One major one is using a wheelchair lets you cut the lines. As someone who "gets" to use the HA lines, I can tell you most lines are about the same, and many are actually longer. I have waited 40 mins in the HA line, while IASW standby was under 10 mins. I've waited 35 mins on POTC while the ride was a walk on. Just because the myths imply HA is "front of the line", don't believe everything you read.
Originally Posted By iamsally I see this come up every now and then. I have absolutely no problem with a handicapped person getting to *cut in line*. I figure a little less stress is due them. Especially if they have a hard time sitting for extended periods. Having people in wheelchairs or who have trouble standing wait the standby time would no doubt stop the cheaters. But I wish there were a way to get the physically challenged the service they once received. (And no, I do not have a solution; I just wish there was one.) Personal integrity just doesn't cut it these days. And taking someone else's wheelchair, YIKES!!!! In 1998 we got a wheelchair for my son. He was about to have knee surgery and we were saving his knee from walking around the Park. I had a talk with my sons and told them that it was only for waking and that he would still get out and stand in line. Well, the CM's wouldn't let us. I am not joking, the moment they saw us they ushered us through. Even when we tried to explain that he could walk they insisted we use handicap entrances. Maybe there were fewer cheaters then.
Originally Posted By mickeymousears ok.... if you were there in December we might have been a wheelchair "faker" but we really weren't. Someone in our party was VERY pregnant and couldn't walk everywhere, but wanted to accompany her daughter for her 3rd bday (who could miss that). SO, we rented a wheelchair, except they were out of normal wheelchairs and we had to get the extra wide one - which coincidentally fits a very pregnant person and a 3 year old side by side. ANYWAYS, she felt bad that people had to push her everywhere, so walked as often as possible and other people took turns in the chair. So we got a lot of dirty looks, but she really did need the wheel chair and I felt like it wasn't anyone else's business what we were doing with a wheelchair; after all you have just as much opportunity to rent a chair as we did (snooze you loose). Also, not all disabilities are visually apparent - just because someone is in a chair and doesn't seem disabled, doesn't make it true. BTW: the wheelchair turned out to be a pain in the royal butt! it was difficult to maneuver through the crowd and through the lines. And, Yes, you may get a separate wheelchair line, but you end up waiting just as long - if not longer to actually get on the ride. For example, we wanted to end the night with small world - which on Dec. 20 the line wrapped around past that character greeting spot and back. We debated on which line to wait in, cause we found the wheelchair line seemed to take twice as long, but when we saw that the line went up onto the character greeting stage (stairs) we HAD to use wheelchair line. The sign said 45 minutes, but We waited in line for a good 2 - 2.5 hours before we got on a boat; I know those signs aren't always accurate and everyone else could have been waiting just as long, but sitting in that one spot for that long seemed like it took all night (especially with a 3 year old who was WAY past bed time)! That's my 2 cents: dont worry about what other people are doing - just enjoy yourself!
Originally Posted By Malcon10t I've been in the IASW line where I times someone who got in the standby line when I got in the HA line. The standby time said 10 mins. He made it to the boat in 7 mins. I waited 36 mins.
Originally Posted By lesmisfan mickeymouseears, that is a wonderful reason to have a wheelchair. Ladies who are expecting need not to put alot of stress on their bodies. So that is a good excuse. But there are those who get a wheel chair who have no sort of disability or handicapp whether physical or mental. and those are the people most people have problems with.
Originally Posted By tashajilek " But there are those who get a wheel chair who have no sort of disability or handicapp whether physical or mental. and those are the people most people have problems with." 100% agree.
Originally Posted By mhartman47 While I understand there are many who abuse the wheelchair policy, I appear to be a physcially healthy mid 20s year old. I however need a wheelchair as I destroyed my knee playing sports in high school and can not stand on it for a long period of time. When the lines are short (under 45 min) I stand in-line, otherwise I must use the chair. I do also utilize the fastpass system as well to avoid "cutting" in line. In addition, I have to be careful to not sit all day either ensuring I am stretching out my leg muscles so I don't have muscle cramps. Please recognize that while it may appear as people are "cheating/faking" there may be a legitmate reason and you are not aware of their medical history.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb But when you see a group of (usually young) people running and giggling and switching in and out of the chair it's pretty obvious they are taking advantage. Which I think is the major complaint here. It happens all the time at WDW, especially during cheer competition time.
Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA >> But when you see a group of (usually young) people running and giggling and switching in and out of the chair it's pretty obvious they are taking advantage.<<< I saw something similar to that last Saturday waiting in the single rider line for CS-no joke, a girl and her group(young teenagers) were in front of me with a wheelchair. She was the only one using it—it seemed like she might of had a problem but was walking totally fine to and from the car to wheelchair..ok this is what I don’t get they got off the ride she sat in wheel chair her friends next to her, they waited. Then the next train came and then got back inot the ride and rode it AGAIN, all the while I am standing there for like 10 mins. Thinking what the hey…
Originally Posted By lesmisfan that is not supposed to happen. they were supposed to get off and go back all away around.
Originally Posted By teddibubbles then there is me. im disabled. some days i can walk about 2 hours. others i cant. some days i limp. others i dont. my hubby has bad sore legs. he works all the time. so he refuses to ride my scooter( pride guy thing) but as soon as i see him slow down. i get out of the chair and tell him im needing to strech.. i will try to walk as long as i can take it (hubby wont go in line in my chair) but i grit my teeth untill i have to sit. then he has no chance that day. as im whiped out. but as the days go by i get worse and no chair time for him. i do this at malls and many times late at night. why. hubby is done for. he dont want to walk. but im not some times. so i share to keep him with me longer messing around late. if i can stand and walk abit. i have him sit. it sounds bad but its true. many days i cant even stand much on my own. but some times i can. so if you see us switch that is why.
Originally Posted By rader22 As a person who has to use a wheelchair I hate those that are obviously faking to use a chair. It seems to always be the young ones that do this. They make all those like me who have to use one for one reason or another look bad. I'm not sure if they could do it or not, but have a certain age limit or an adult over the age of 21 rent the chair. This way it would stop some of the abuse.
