Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Let me ask this question did you like Bush speaking ?>> Yeah, it was fine lol. Its not like when the guy gets on screen I turn violent or anything. I mean, it's a robot speaking in a patriotic tone, I dont really get how people can get offeneded on what he says or said at the HOP. <<Unfortunately the Clinton and Bush presidencies both controversial to some - and they made their feelings knownduring the show. I did not attend last visit for exactly that reason.>> Well, I guess ALL presendencies are controversial to a degree. Some just waaaay more than others . I cant think of a single President in my life time that had a scandal free presidency...and I was born when they booted scandal ridden Nixon out on his butt lol. And also I seen both Clinton and Bush speak at HOP, both times i was there people just listened, so I guess I was just lucky when I went. I admit, I dont get it, its the President of the United States, seems like there should just be respect, at least to the robots lol. But I'm sure if Obama is placed and speaks and there are enough rednecks and yokels howling down the guy everyday, they will just change it back to the way it is now, no biggie.
Originally Posted By leobloom I also don't remember ever hearing people cheer or boo an AA President. But then, I've only been to the HOP a few times. Have many other people had experiences where guests were booing a AA President?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Many times. There were a few incidents I recall from Bubba's days in HoP ... but the past 3-4 years with Bush have been brutal (no intended political statement here, read into it what you will!) I have seen some very loud booing and a few times boos and others cheering ... it all just really turned me off. It was a bad idea to begin with and just because it's been done for two presidents doesn't mean it should continue. Of course, Disney was in for a world of bad publicity if they suddenly decided to not let the first African-American President speak after letting the last two rednecks do so. Suddenly, I'm in the mood for some BBQ! Oh wait, wrong thread.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Well, I figure it must be because of all the cheers/jeers for Bush that prompted this decison ONLY because Clinton made it through the HOP for both terms, Bush didnt . I'm guessing it started with Clinton, but probably didnt get very bad until Bush for them to really say, 'enough is enough'. Again though, to be fair, people have to look at the circumstances to it. The man is leaving with a 26% approval rating, he is, by all accounts, on both sides, hated. I think its unfair to say that EVERY President after him will suffer the same amount of hatred. Who knows, but at least give it a chance. If its get bad and the rednecks hate Obama or the girls throw themselves at him lol, then just have him stop speaking again, no biggie. And it sounds like thats what they are doing. But I think with Clinton and certainly Bush, people were responding to mainly to direct scandals or policies in their tenures first and foremost. At least give Obama time to have sex with an intern or invade a soverign country first before the plug is pulled ;D.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I am guessing that there have actually been a few physical altercations and some very nasty scenes in that attraction the past few years just based on what I and others have experienced. I'm hoping for the best with the new version, but I truly think it's a mistake to have any current Prez speak ... oh, and I believe this was one of Michael Eisner's personal decisions for those who want to get in a bash.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL, can you imagine a Michael Eisner AA, now THAT would create altercations like no others ;D. Seriously though, I'm not disregarding what people are saying, I only been there twice, caught the show under Clinton and Bush and it was as polite and cordial as a day at Sunday school. I never heard of these issues until a few weeks ago when I posted this. Again though, I think Disneys decision to have Obama speak is to see if how people would at least take to him first and I guess when you think about it, he would be the first President to not EVER speak since the attraction opened and that might rub people the wrong way as well since all the others at least spoke before him, I dont know. I know I'm sounding like a broken record now lol, but just give it a chance, I dont what else could be said. Maybe Disney should create secret service robots on the side of each stage and have them reach for their guns as a threat when someone gets out of line ;D.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <But I'm sure if Obama is placed and speaks and there are enough rednecks and yokels howling down the guy everyday, they will just change it back to the way it is now, no biggie.< funny how you single out Obama detractors - what about supporters who will still be making Bush comments and cheering -- you need look no further than W/E right here on LP for that sentiment. For CLinton and Bush I saw both sides of the fence- usually heckling each other during the show- that's what I want to avoid.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^ quite frankly I don't care about the political reasons behind either of the last 2 presidents or the president elect when it comes to this attraction at WDW... leave the politics behind- it will be cause for continuance of idiots voicing their opinions to a robot at a theme park -- pro or con makes no diffrerence to me, I don't want it there, it has no place. I agree all p[residents deserve at the very least respect enough not to go off on an animatronics show- but that's just not how the country is wired at present - sad to say
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA ^^I'm not sure that it's a new phenomenon. I would bet that there were some jeers at President Nixon when 'The Hall of Presidents' opened in 1971.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^ I believe the world is a much more ignorant place than it was in 1971. Maybe I'm just a crtochety old man - but it sure seems that way.....
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Of course, Disney was in for a world of bad publicity if they suddenly decided to not let the first African-American President speak after letting the last two rednecks do so. << I think that went a long way in reaching a decision to let President Obama speak. I never even considered that until you mentioned it. By the way I resent what you said in the last of that sentence. What are you trying to do, give us RedNecks a bad name? >> Suddenly, I'm in the mood for some BBQ! << You should have been with me last night! Beef, and sausage plate from Hickory Hollow. I ruined a good shirt from the sauce, but it was worth it.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> funny how you single out Obama detractors - what about supporters who will still be making Bush comments and cheering -- you need look no further than W/E right here on LP for that sentiment. << Thanks for pointing that out. >> I agree all p[residents deserve at the very least respect enough not to go off on an animatronics show- but that's just not how the country is wired at present - sad to say << It's kind of sad to think that there are a few morons in this World that think they are making a political statment by booing an AA at WDW. They don't even realize how childish they appear.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I think that the current president should have a speaking role. Make an announcement before the show that no cheering or booing will be allowed and toss the people who can't behave properly out of the park. I want to keep the current prez thing going. I don't know about you, but I am just really jazzed about the possibility of listening to a future President Palin... "I can see Alaska from my house..."
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Good God, I blew the punch line. I can see RUSSIA from my house. Please... EDIT!!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney >> funny how you single out Obama detractors - what about supporters who will still be making Bush comments and cheering -- you need look no further than W/E right here on LP for that sentiment. << I will say this AGAIN, I never experienced any of this at all at HOP, I was only commenting on what others have said here, especially about Bush and Clinton and how they were heckled for the most part and assumed based on spirits posts before me that Bush was kept from talking because there were more boos from the man than cheers. I was under impression this was the bigger issue, but if I'm wrong, sorry lol. Hope this helps kids ;D.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^ the issue is idiots on both sides of the equation - and as long as this country remains relatively divided close todown the middle...it's not going to get any better. I have experienced exactly what Spirit did, one timeclose to turning into a brawl and groups were throwing crap at each other - it just isn't worth it.... again this is NOT a political statement,it is a statement on the level of craziness some have today with regards to politics....
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Jesus, if its that bad how does the thing stay open if people are throwing punches in the the thing lol. Well, it will be fun to see what happens when Obama is there. Maybe CNN should be there on opening just in case lol. But I'm guessing Disney probably has gotten feedback about not letting the Preident speak anymore and why they are going ahead with Obama again. Eitherway, tHis is turning out more interesting than I ever thought though ;D.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL, thanks dude, its been a rollercoaster here, haven't it . I avoided about 50% of the posts though, just thankful its actually about the attraction again now .
