Originally Posted By TomSawyer Didn't you read, STPH? Saddam is a bad man. A bad, bad man. Therefore, we need tax cuts. How can it be any more obvious?
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "Didn't you read, STPH? Saddam is a bad man. A bad, bad man. Therefore, we need tax cuts. How can it be any more obvious?" Sorry, I'm thinking logically right now, having been in a trial most of the day, and I can't see the relationship between Saddam being a bad man and the U.S. getting tax cuts. What are we going to do about the joker in North Korea? Give everyone a Lexus?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You're thinking of Afghanistan.> No, I'm thinking of Iraq, as well as Afghanistan. Both were harboring islamic terrorists.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <How's that whole peace in the region thing going, anyway?> Pretty well, although I'm not surprised you aren't aware of that. You seem to only focus on bad news.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Hussein didn't start it, no matter how resolutions he defied. Iraq never fired a shot.> Yes, they did, and yes, he did. <It's hard enough to balance a budget in peacetime. Here we are in a war of our choosing, not to mention having to deal with the hurricane costs et al, and someone is kvetching about raising taxes??? I'd say it HAS to happen, mainly because of thispesky little war.> We cut taxes in the 80's, and still managed to win the cold war.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<We cut taxes in the 80's, and still managed to win the cold war. >> It is a little less costly building a bunch of high-tech weapons to scare someone than it is to keep over a 150,000 pairs of boots on the ground in the Middle East fighting a war with insurgents. There is NO WAY you can compare Iraq with the 80's. A more accurate comparison would be the U.S. economy during the final days of Viet Nam, and we ALL know what THAT was like. For all the talk on these boards about the “libs†wearing blinders, the conservatives are MUCH worse. What color is the sky in YOUR world, Douglas?
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "Yes, they did, and yes, he did." Absolute baloney and you kow it. Tellus exactly when Iraq's army attacked us, prompting the invasion of Iraq. The rest of the world missed it. "We cut taxes in the 80's, and still managed to win the cold war. " Gee, Doug, I'll play. How many troops did we deploy during the Cold war? Who did we invade? How many U.S. troops died in the Cold War? That's not what I'm talking about, and you know it.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <It is a little less costly building a bunch of high-tech weapons to scare someone than it is to keep over a 150,000 pairs of boots on the ground in the Middle East fighting a war with insurgents.> Which is why we're still increasing domestic spending so much, I guess. <There is NO WAY you can compare Iraq with the 80's. A more accurate comparison would be the U.S. economy during the final days of Viet Nam, and we ALL know what THAT was like.> I think the 80's comparison is more accurate. <For all the talk on these boards about the “libs†wearing blinders, the conservatives are MUCH worse.> Of course they're not. <What color is the sky in YOUR world, Douglas?> Blue. Seems like the sky is always black in the liberal world.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "For all the talk on these boards about the “libs†wearing blinders, the conservatives are MUCH worse." I think we're all fed up with them re-framing the issues to suit their own attacks, rather than answer the questions posed to them. It's simply asinine to compare Iraq to the Cold War. Asinine. If they insist on waging this war through Bush's term, they will HAVE to raise taxes, barring some unforeseen revenue stream. The country will not stand for a cut in services to pay for this thing. This war was initially priced out at $87 billion, which is $87 billion more than was in the budget. Only an idiot would advocate cuts in services and taxes at this juncture.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I think the 80's comparison is more accurate.>> No they aren't. <<Of course they're not.>> Yes they are.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I think we're all fed up with them re-framing the issues to suit their own attacks, rather than answer the questions posed to them.> I'm kind of fed up with the liberals lying and proposing we surrender. <It's simply asinine to compare Iraq to the Cold War. Asinine.> Using derogatory adjectives to characterize my posts does not negate them.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "I'm kind of fed up with the liberals lying and proposing we surrender." Why lie, Doug? Who has used the word surrender besides you? "Using derogatory adjectives to characterize my posts does not negate them." The jury's out on that, but the intent was to accurately describe them, which it most surely did.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Why lie, Doug? Who has used the word surrender besides you?> I don't lie. The word "surrender" is an accurate description of the Democrat war plan. <The jury's out on that, but the intent was to accurately describe them, which it most surely did.> As soon as you're right about something, I might start valuing your opinion.
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Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>I'm kind of fed up with the liberals lying and proposing we surrender.<< No liberal is proposing that we surrender.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <No liberal is proposing that we surrender.> There's another word to describe pulling your troops out before the opponent is defeated?
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Withdrawal. It isn't admitting defeat. Surrender is laying down your arms.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Beau, an exit strategy isn't a surrender. Are you really saying that the GOP was insisting that we needed a surrender plan for Bosnia?