Originally Posted By oc_dean Not all of them are great. They are only there for one year, maybe two. And depending on what country they are hosting in .... locals will end up being an important demograph to lore as many people. I went to the one in Vancouver in 1986. I don't know where it ranks in the grand scheme of them all .. But I thought it was all a good show.
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs Eh...forget the toons, and put in the greatest 2oon of them all... -Kar2oonMan wakes up to find his camp trashed by the apes...his bed will be perched in the trees a la "Meatballs" -Kar2oonMan gets squirted by the elephants in the bathing pool. He will have the obligatory boxer shorts with hearts on them. -2oony is actually riding one of the hippos -2oony is at the top of the safari party totem pole -2oony hangs onto a vine, precariously close to the pirahnas (a la Brer Fox & Brer Gator) -2oony tries to hide/sneak away from the headhunters -2oony is seen bargaining with Trader Sam Now doesn't that sound more entertaining?
Originally Posted By Bellella Oh, oc_dean, you took the words right out of my mouth. I also enjoy the attractions that are completely toonless more than the others. I really like the dark rides in Fantasyland, but they seem a bit childish to me since I've grown up. The others are timeless, or at least they will be as long as the toons stay off. (Splash Mountain is the notable exception- it's timeless with toons.) They've already turned the Submarine Voyage and Small World into completely children's rides by tooning them up. Fantasyland and Mickey's Toontown are children's places through and through. I personally would love to see D-land as more of what it was originally conceived as-a family park, not a kids' park.
Originally Posted By Bellella oc_dean, what was the analogy you were talking about? My curiosity is running wild.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin What about Tarzan? I think those would be okay, but no Pooh...it is definately not The Hundred Acre Forest.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin I can't remember, did that little cheeky monkey have a name? The one who stole the drawrings? I look for opportunities to being able to use 'cheeky monkey' in a sentence. (sort of a written shout-out to Smedley. Hi Smeds!!!!)
Originally Posted By Bellella Hello, anyone home? They already took away the beautiful Swiss Family Treehouse for Tarzan!
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin Walt said Dland would never be finished...that means change, since there really isn't much more land (except the Strawberry Field). I've been jonesing for the flying saucer/hovercraft thing for decades, but I have accepted the change and stopped gripeing about it. If it stayed the same as opening day people would be complaining that they had been to Dland and there's nothing new so why go back? And don't be so condescending, I thought I stated my idea in an intelligent way. I don't try to see everything the negative way you do.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Toons on the Jungle Cruise would be weird, I don't think they'll do it. But then again, I'd have said the same thing about IASW 2 years ago. That said, I finally rode IASW this weekend, and I thought it was fine. The toons didn't bother me one bit (except Stitch for some reason??), neither did the music. In fact, I liked it --- it was kind of toned down. And the ride looked fantastic, fresh paint and all. Looked great! I'm not a huge fan of the new boats, but I get why they did it.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I'm not a huge fan of the new boats, but I get why they did it.<< <------Liked the new boats, in that you don't get whiplash when you get bumped by another boat.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL >>>They already took away the beautiful Swiss Family Treehouse for Tarzan!<<< Kind of an empty statement as it is the exact same thing. Nothing was taken away but the water wheel and pulley system, which was neat but didn't make the attraction. And so what, they switched out an old Disney movie theme for a newer Disney movie theme.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL Oh, and as for which Toons for the JC, well, you could seamlessly add the Lemur family from DINOSAUR. They were so realistic, most wouldn't even know they were toons from a Disney feature. (Or WALL-E would be cute.....rolling around cleaning up fake animal poop ;-)
Originally Posted By monorailblue <<<Nothing was taken away but the water wheel and pulley system, which was neat but didn't make the attraction.>>> UUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNN! Wrong answer. Try again. Millions of kids (and adults alike) spent way too much time watching and studying the water system of the old treehouse. It definitely made the Attraction. Two other things were taken away: all the leaves, to be replaced by plastic frond-ish leaves that don't look nearly as realistic--and, oh, yeah, any other semblance of realism. With the Swiss Family Treehouse, it was simple to imagine you were in an actual, habitable treehouse--and wonder where on earth the family had gotten to. You knew that, if you could just open the doors, you could live quite well up there (except for the small-bed factor--and the no bed for Francis thing, which wasn't very fair). With Tarzan, it is impossible to imagine that plastic maquettes are actual characters, that Tarzan or any other character from the movie ever had been (or ever would be) in the treehouse, or anything else approaching immersive realism. Sigh.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL >>>UUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNN! Wrong answer. Try again. Millions of kids (and adults alike) spent way too much time watching and studying the water system of the old treehouse. It definitely made the Attraction.<<< Says who? Granted, my personal experience was ages ago but POTC could have a huge wait, using the entire side queue, Treehouse was vacant. I knew female RO's who actually chose Treehouse for the summer because it wouldn't even break 100 an hour. Trips to the park now and I see guests climbing it all day long. Now, is Tarzan's better than Swiss Family, PERSONALLY: no, I have a history with the original. But it is the same experience just different window dressing.
Originally Posted By danyoung I gotta go with TMICHAEL on this one. monorailblue, your experience differs, and is totally valid. But there's no way you could know that millions of kids and adults spent time watching the water system. I thought it was pretty cool, but I didn't lose any sleep when it was taken out. I think they did a great job of updating the tree while keeping the essence of what was there before.
Originally Posted By monorailblue Then you both should be in favor of tooning up Jungle Cruise--or did I miss something there?
Originally Posted By danyoung Yes, you missed something, at least on my account. I am in no way in favor of tooning up the JC. I don't go so far as to say that any attempt to put toons in will be a travesty that will ruin the attraction. But it wouldn't be my choice.
Originally Posted By Bellella Sara Tonin- my apologies for being condescending. But they already have a Tarzan-themed attraction, and they certainly don't need another one. And by the way, I haven't done nearly as much griping about Tarzan's Treehouse as I should have. Here goes- it's tacky, and the music is way too loud.
