Originally Posted By YourPalEd Vote for Pelosi, someone who thinks and plans, and understands america's defenses, having served on some department or other. I hear she was on tv even, but i bet what the reps say is true, i mean you can't keep honest people off tv indefinitely, can you?
Originally Posted By YourPalEd Look how tv sales have plunged since they have kept honest people off tv for the last 6 years.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Dabob, what do you think of Hillary?> I think she's been a better senator than I thought she would be, in terms of constituent service and actually paying attention to NY concerns, as opposed to just "going national" right from the beginning. Politically I like her okay. She does strike me as too calculated by half, but then again so do most pols. She just gets called on it instantly and never gets to skate on it, like most others do. There's also an intriguing school of thought emerging that says if the polling doesn't change (that says she can't possibly win a general election) that she won't run, and instead concentrate on becoming the first female senate majority leader. <I know you are pushing for a moderate Democrat but you have to see with Lieberman getting the axe, that you are going to get ignored by your party.> I'm stickin' with my prediction that the dems go with one of the moderate governors/ex governors, partly BECAUSE they're governors. I also think that no matter how you read one CT race in 2006, it's a long way from 2008. I think a LOT of Americans will be in the mood for a moderate by 2008.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Dabob, I think you give the democrats to much credit for being smart come time to pick their next presidential candidate. Your plan might work. That is why I am sure they will not go with your plan.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd OH, ye of little faith. I don't mean to be negative, but i will have to mention your lack of faith to Madam President Pelosi, when i congratulate her on a successful election campaign, at her inaugeration ceremony.
Originally Posted By nemopoppins Yes, I like the sound of that... Madam President Pelosi. She is an effective leader and negotiator in spite of being outnumbered in such a hostile environment.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Pwloai for president? She would lose 45 states and still have a horrible face lift. There is nobody dumber than Nan from Fran in congress... nobody. Not even Joe Biden or Howard Dean.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd You didn't even try to spell Madam President Pelosi's name. It's that lack of respect for the presidency that emboldens the terrorists!
Originally Posted By jonvn If the democrats nominate pelosi, they need to just close up shop, because they can't figure out who is able to ever win. She's not. A woman isn't going to win. A very liberal woman isn't going to win even more. The democrats need to put for a positive and optimistic statement about what they intend to do for the people who vote for them. They need to stop whining about Bush and how terrible he is, even if it is true, and start saying how they will be better. Until they do that, I don't think they have a very good chance for the next presidential election.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh In order for the Democrats to start saying how they will be better, they have to come up with a way to be better. The problem is they can't. Raising taxes, increasing social programs, and appeasing dictators are all failed ideas.
Originally Posted By jonvn Someone is going to have to raise taxes to pay for the debt we have accumulated under the current admin.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh No, they're not. We simply need to slow the rate of growth on federal spending and the deficit will disappear in a few years. Our biggest problems are social security and medicaid, and the Democrats have no solutions on how to slow the rate of their growth.
Originally Posted By jonvn Uh, yeah. All this accumulated debt, the largest in our history, is just going to vanish. You might have noticed the deficit already disappeared, when Clinton was in office. 6 years later, it's the largest ever. Last time this happened, we had to have the largest tax hike in history to pay for it. Social Security and Medicaid are there as social safety nets, and were created for a reason.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <You might have noticed the deficit already disappeared, when Clinton was in office.> Here we go again. Sorry Jon but this is a myth that uninformed people push on the country. Also, the defecit has shurunk under Bush and the government is getting more tax revenue than they ever dreamed of... because of the Bush Tax cuts. You go ahead and push for higher taxes though. The democrats are.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You might have noticed the deficit already disappeared, when Clinton was in office.> Yes. And it disappeared because federal spending was slowed by a Republican Congress. But then a recession started in 2000, and we were attacked. <6 years later, it's the largest ever.> Actually, I believe it's smaller this year than last. And as a percentage of the GDP, it's much smaller than it has been. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/14/AR2005101401167.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/14/AR2005101401167.html</a> <Social Security and Medicaid are there as social safety nets, and were created for a reason.> They are still going to bankrupt us, if their increase is not slowed.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Sorry Jon but this is a myth" No, it is not. We had a balanced budget. "the defecit has shurunk under Bush" Orwellian. "You go ahead and push for higher taxes though. The democrats are." As I said, someone is going to have to pay for this deficit, and the last time we had one like this a REPUBLICAN president created the largest tax increase in history to cover it. That's what happened. And it's going to happen again.
