Originally Posted By alexbook >>careful -em --- you'll be lumped in with us curmudgeons -- only see and speak about the positives...because that's all that matters<< vbdad55: I don't think most people on LP want only positive news, but it can be discouraging to read thread after thread after thread where the positive posters are shouted down by the negative ones. There are times when I've seen dozens of vitriolic, scathing reviews of a movie or attraction that the posters haven't even seen or experienced, yet.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 different issues -- I would never pass an opinion on something I didn't have first hand knowledge of - I stay out of those discussions. I read a lot about TDR and how great it is..I purposely stay out of those because I have never been there, so any opinion I have would be 2nd hand at best..I get in the ones comparing DL to WDW as I have plenty of first hand knowledge with each..so I would agree with negative comments for negative sake being an issue, but seeing everything through rose colored glasses is just as wrong, and then telling people who do have other knowledge they somehow don't like Disney because they see something not quite right. So to be told I don't love Disney or WDW because I have a negative opinion on something I do have first hand knowledge about is just as wrong-- same goes for any other poster who posts there opinion of something they have done or experienced. All is not perfect in Mickey land...I wish it was...that does not say I don't love WDW...or DL ...or Disney as a company...I am invested heavily both emotionally and financially in Disney, and I feel my opinions - even if they are negative of something in particular-- should count also..I think I have earned that right. For people to say, don't look at the management or business side, just enjoy all the good things is an ostrich approach I cannot and will not take.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Remember VBDAD - LPers come from all walks of life. Some lead a very different life to you and I, and therefore may not recognise the impacts of business decisions, politics or economics on their "enjoyment, fantasyland" experience.
Originally Posted By pixiedust1 <<I don't think most people on LP want only positive news, but it can be discouraging to read thread after thread after thread where the positive posters are shouted down by the negative ones. There are times when I've seen dozens of vitriolic, scathing reviews of a movie or attraction that the posters haven't even seen or experienced, yet.>> Thank you very much... you said a mouthful... EXACTLY!! You make a post about a restaurant or ride that you like, and get attacked because of it... like I've always said here... your just one person with one persons opinion... you don't need to call people names and belittle them because they don't agree with you..... I've posted threads to make people feel good illicit fun discussions, and all I get are nasty comments, like the post I made about guess where this photos from... go look at it... I was told to go post it somewhere else... (there are a few who do like it ) If my memory serves me right, there are many mnay posts in here talking about members visits to restaurants.. well there is a dining thread for that, no one needs to correct anybody here... it's supposed to be fun......
Originally Posted By vbdad55 < your just one person with one persons opinion... you don't need to call people names and belittle them because they don't agree with you..... < exactly and each is entitled their own opinions without being told that negative comments aren't welcome..need to view this from both sides not just one. And I never belittle anyone -- that is a totally different issue-- if you have a problem with that-- call out the specific person, not a blanket statement. Very few people here who post comments about things that may be viewed as negative personally attack anyone.... If you have a problem with someone tell them so, don't broadbrush to include everyone wh may not have your point of view
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Remember VBDAD - LPers come from all walks of life. Some lead a very different life to you and I, and therefore may not recognise the impacts of business decisions, politics or economics on their "enjoyment, fantasyland" experience.< absolutely- but then they should also not discredit or disavow that there is another viewpoint...as has been done here. To be told not to look at mgmt or business decisions and only look at the positives is just as wrong as what they are complaining about-- wouldn't you agree ?
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden <<I would never pass an opinion on something I didn't have first hand knowledge of - I stay out of those discussions.>> "cough-cough" Pooh's Playground "cough-cough"
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 <<I would never pass an opinion on something I didn't have first hand knowledge of - I stay out of those discussions.>> "cough-cough" Pooh's Playground "cough-cough"<< LMAO, BUSTED!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<I would never pass an opinion on something I didn't have first hand knowledge of - I stay out of those discussions.>> "cough-cough" Pooh's Playground "cough-cough"< I have been there 3 times -- so how is that not having first hand knowledge ?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<I would never pass an opinion on something I didn't have first hand knowledge of - I stay out of those discussions.>> "cough-cough" Pooh's Playground "cough-cough"<< LMAO, BUSTED!< okay william - same question to you-- how is that busted ? by what logic. I have been to WDW 3 times since it ipened. This last time I even stated in this argument that I was in the playground with my nieces who asked " is this it " -- so again by what logic is tha busted ? WHow is that not first hand experience ? Because i didn;t ride the slide ? c'mon you can do better than that
Originally Posted By vbdad55 geez, at least have an argument gusy before you try and bust me...I'm not dumb
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 okay william - same question to you-- how is that busted ? by what logic. I have been to WDW 3 times since it ipened. This last time I even stated in this argument that I was in the playground with my nieces who asked " is this it " -- so again by what logic is tha busted ? << You were ragging on Pooh Playground before it was even built. We had many arguments concerning this fact. Now, I was just as guilty as you, in defending it, before it was built. Anyways, I said "BUSTED" in jest. I am not trying to call you out or treat you badly. I just thought it was funny.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom It actually was funny. And Pixiedust1, your right it is suppose to be fun.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<geez, at least have an argument gusy before you try and bust me...I'm not dumb>> I agree. How uncalled for. Now, if someone had attacked you for being a crossdressing, tiara-wearing, DVC-loving, Cal Grill eating, Cubbies fan, that would just be accurate!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<You were ragging on Pooh Playground before it was even built. We had many arguments concerning this fact. Now, I was just as guilty as you, in defending it, before it was built.>> In the context of the MK ... and Disney quality ... and what the park has been and should be about, I have yet to read one intelligent reason for why it exists. Having toddlers who can run around it may give the stroller brigade a break from parenting duties, but that's just an opinion as to why they like it. Nothing at all to do with whether it belongs there or whether it is 'fits' or whether it is quality.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <You were ragging on Pooh Playground before it was even built. We had many arguments concerning this fact. Now, I was just as guilty as you, in defending it, before it was built. < I was raggng on the concept of replacing an e-ticket with a playground- correct -- then when we actually saw the debacle that they presented, I turned the discussion to how bad that wason top of the replacement issue...but I would never have continued the crusade if I hadn;t viewed it first...for what it's worth < I am not trying to call you out or treat you badly. I just thought it was funny.< I do understand that and appreciate the fact that this has never gotten personal...
