Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Now, if someone had attacked you for being a crossdressing, tiara-wearing, DVC-loving, Cal Grill eating, Cubbies fan, that would just be accurate! < luckily we don;t have pictures posted with our profiles !
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <In the context of the MK ... and Disney quality ... and what the park has been and should be about, I have yet to read one intelligent reason for why it exists. Having toddlers who can run around it may give the stroller brigade a break from parenting duties, but that's just an opinion as to why they like it. Nothing at all to do with whether it belongs there or whether it is 'fits' or whether it is quality. < I may have a plaque made of this post and donate it to Fantasyland !
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 The Spirit would be remiss if he didn't give props to Dave for his very intelligent and reasoned approach to this whole issue. FWIW, I also feel he represents my feelings as to why there are many negative posts. And I'm sorry to hear you twisted your ankle in one of those potholes at DLP. But it could have been worse, at least you weren't served a steak that someone else had taken a few bites of and then returned to the kitchen in one of their finer dining locales. As to this point: <<I think your point of DL vs. WDW experiences are interesting. I think people love the park they first experienced. With the exception of my DW - she went to DLP, MK and DL in that order and DL is her fav (although I could have been a key influence). But I think people who grow up with MK perfer it to DL and visa versa. Stands to reason really.>> I grew up in Florida and have been an APers since I was a kid. I never had ANY complaints in the 70s or 80s. And only a few into the 90s. But when WDW mushroomed as a resort in the mid-90s, quality took a nosedive and there's not one trip that I don't notice a few things out of sorts. I didn't go to DL until I was an adult. But, as a park, I think it (and DLP) blows away the MK in every aspect. You can't compare a resort though to an urban park.
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire Post 43<<< your just one person with one persons opinion... you don't need to call people names and belittle them because they don't agree with you..... < Pst 44<<exactly and each is entitled their own opinions without being told that negative comments aren't welcome..need to view this from both sides not just one.>> I agree with both of course, but doesnt it get tiring to post something good about Disney, something you think positiive about, only to be put down for thinking its great? Im really disgusted by it. This happens nearly EVERY TIME something positive is posted. You may not agree with the statement, and youre entitled to say so, but to try to make the other person feel bad about thinking positively is ridiculous. It happens WAY TOO OFTEN here and it seems like it will never stop.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Nothing should become personal -- again that is why I left WE section -- but differing opinions should be allowed and welcomed -- and for those you feel out of line -- call them on it...that's my 2 cents. I agree I wouldn't like it here if everything was made personal, but quite frankly I don't see that much of that -- and it is mainly a few posters...and many of them are infrequent posters... read a thread like favorite snacks -- I haven't seen anything negative there yet -- some topics are going to render up differing opinions more than others...I enjoy a healthy debate...there are a lot of people here with very good thoughts...it's why I come here......if I only wanted dates and times for things--I'd just go to Disney.com
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "To be told not to look at mgmt or business decisions and only look at the positives is just as wrong as what they are complaining about-- wouldn't you agree ?" Oh absolutely, however it was a gentle reminder. Those of us engaged in business understand the impact of business. Those who are not, may not.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "The Spirit would be remiss if he didn't give props to Dave for his very intelligent and reasoned approach to this whole issue." Aw, thanks Spirit. I thought it was being ignored and a waste of my time. Much appreciated.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "It happens WAY TOO OFTEN here and it seems like it will never stop." Ok, I agree that it should never get personal. However, anything that someone is passionate about - Love/Hate will elicit emotional responses. All of us share a love for Disney. If we did not, we would not be here. LP is like one big happy family. And like every family, we have our disagreements. Sometimes, our common bond continue to hold us together, and at other times a rift grows. Again, it's called being human, and exibiting free will while being bound by a common purpose - to worship the mouse ;-)
Originally Posted By pixiedust1 <<agree with both of course, but doesnt it get tiring to post something good about Disney, something you think positiive about, only to be put down for thinking its great? Im really disgusted by it. This happens nearly EVERY TIME something positive is posted. You may not agree with the statement, and youre entitled to say so, but to try to make the other person feel bad about thinking positively is ridiculous. It happens WAY TOO OFTEN here and it seems like it will never stop. Go to a thread I started about guessing photos and see how I was told to lay off TDLFAN by one of his buddies, and I WAS TOLD I WAS BEING RUDE... see some people here think they can say anything they want.. and when you give it back to them a little as I did to TDLFAN I was told I WAS RUDE... but his little pit bull buddy has never said a word to him when he has belittled others with nasty hurtful remarks... go read... nice to be a hipocrtite... so now I will get thrown off for my comment to her.. oh well its no fun anymore on here...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^ Pixie, all I am saying is don't lump all posters who may comment on items they view as negative together...that is what I take exception to... As far as when someone gets personal...respond to that 'one' person, not general...I have had personal 'battles' here before, and as much as I don't like them...they are going to happen. Again if you view most of my almost 1000 posts, most are positive -- there are items I cannot be positive about : playground / maintenance cuts / less shows and performers etc... and will not..but that doesn't make me a bad guy or a Disney hater...quite the opposite. If I ever get personal in a response to you-- let me have it....as I would deserve it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Aw, thanks Spirit. I thought it was being ignored and a waste of my time. Much appreciated.>> Anytime. I think that often intelligent posts (that tend to be longer because they are well thought out) can get lost in an emotional thread like this one. All I know is I will continue to love TWDC and its parks, but I'll also continue to point out when things aren't done right and will continue to bash inept management and Imagineers when the need arises. I also likely will post more negative posts than positive ones on the WDW board because there are more than enough posters here who will gush over everything WDW-related. I think a healthy dose of reality is needed.
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Originally Posted By Labuda "All I know is I will continue to love TWDC and its parks, but I'll also continue to point out when things aren't done right and will continue to bash inept management and Imagineers when the need arises." Very good way to handle things, my fried. No wonder you & TDLFAN get along, too.
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