Originally Posted By Anatole69 ^^ I like Turtle Talk. You would have more of a point if TDS were opening Monters Laugh Floor. - Anatole
Originally Posted By barboy Agreed, Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor is even more dreadful than Turtle Talk. My overall point is that Disney Sea now has a weakened constitution compared to its 2001 health; the park is susceptible more than ever to the cloning virus--- I just hope it doesn't contract Stitch's Escape, MILF, Magic Carpets of Aladdin or Toy Story Midway Mania(notice that the worst theme park diseases out there are cartoon movie based). Enough of the toons already!
Originally Posted By barboy I believe it has and I'm not too amused over the prospects of sharing park space with 'Midway Maniacs'.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris I guess the upsides is, while all those people are sprinting for TSMM and Turtle Talk, that will leave smaller lines, on opening, for true E tickets like Indy, JTtCotE and ToT.
Originally Posted By Scottydem LOL I think TSMM is awesome! I've never been on an attraction like it. It's way better than MILF and SGE. Not even close to that amount of suck. I love how no one mentioned that Turtle Talk is going in the American section. Wrong country.
Originally Posted By barboy ///I love how no one mentioned that Turtle Talk is going in the American section. Wrong country./// I did. I made a big issue about it several months back and nobody seemed to care. Basically I said Crush is an Australian green sea turtle who would not be able to travel from Australia to New England, North America; Now if Crush were a Leatherback species then maybe and that is a HUGE maybe at best because the farthest leatherbacks have been known to travel is 3,000 miles (approx 5,000 kilometers). Australia to New England is about 10,000 miles so Crush would have never been able to make the journey. Yes, I have a problem with the attraction's thematic congruence. I can only hope that Crush will be eaten by a tiger shark before he gets to the American harbor
Originally Posted By SuperDry Isn't the story about Crush that you're aboard the SS Columbia and encounter Crush while at sea? The ship could be anywhere.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< It's in the American port though lol. It is by their ToT >>> I know where it is. But once you're on the ship, can't it set sail and go somewhere else, at least per the story? They story of the ship isn't that it's permanently in drydock next to the ToT - it's docked there and about to set sail, per the story.
Originally Posted By Mr X That'd be a pretty fast ship, to get all the way to Australia from Tokyo..er, New York (either way, really) in the span of a ride cycle!
Originally Posted By Anatole69 Peter Pan's Flight gets from London to Never Never Land in one ride cycle and not a single guest ever questions it. I guess it all depends upon how it's sold to the audience. - Anatole
Originally Posted By Mr X Fair point. I suppose I shall wait and see then (imagineers can work wonders when given the chance, after all...).
Originally Posted By barboy What I find dubious about Disney Sea's explanantion(the ship goes out to sea and guests see Crush)is that OLC wanted Crush so badly that it had to come up with one far fetched, but possible, backstory. That ship would have to depart New York's harbor and make it to the other side of the world to Australian waters. The bottom line here is that the ship is pure American Waterfront and Crush has Australia wrtitten all over him thus it's a silly nexus even though it is possible. If OLC wanted a Crush like attraction in American Waterfrot then perhaps it should have went with the mouse from The Rescuers since that movie had some connection to New York. Or better yet come up with a new character(a la WDW's Figment) like an octopus or a barnacle.......something, anything readily found in the New York waters.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I think you guys are overthinking this, especially as Crush has a Californian accent, and not even an Austalian one. He is simply sailing the EAC in finding Nemo. It is conceivable that he also travels elsewhere (after all, Whales do). It is still a better fit than most of the crap Disney pumps out these days
Originally Posted By barboy ///Peter Pan's Flight gets from London to Never Never Land in one ride cycle and not a single guest ever questions it./// At first sight that looks like a very sound counter but there is something that I want to point out: Peter Pan epitomizes pure fantasy so it has a license to do anything and go anywhere imaginable whereas the steamship/cruiser of American Waterfront is more reality based. That ship and its 'voyages' is bound by the rules of reality far more if it wants to keep the story credible.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 ^^ Does the Tower of Terror follow the rules of reality? I don't know too many tiki gods or elevators falling through dimensions myself. lol. - Anatole
Originally Posted By barboy ///Does the Tower of Terror follow the rules of reality?/// Yes, on many levels and so does Peter Pan. But Peter and Alice, again, are fantasy **BASED** whereas ToT and the steamship/ocean cruiser are more reality **BASED** ToT can have fantasy elements(and it certainly does of cousrse) but still be anchored on reality themes. Conversely Peter Pan can have many realistic features and conform to the real world but still be inherently fantasy. We should not treat the two genres as interchangeable because they are not.
Originally Posted By SuperDry It seems to me that some people are upset about toons being brought into the parks in excessive amounts and based on that are reaching for any and all reasons to oppose such attractions.
Originally Posted By barboy I'm guilty of the first half but not the second; I don't want any more toons in the parks, guilty as charged, but Crush is on the brink of breaching proper themes irrespective of my bias. I don't watch Disney animated movies much because I never really liked them in my adult life: from Aladdin, Toy Story, Beauty & Beast, Poccahontas, Cars---all of them. They just don't interest me. There is one however that I thoroughly enjoyed---- I just love the movie Finding Nemo and I love the attractions Living Seas clamriders at WDW and Nemo Subs at DL. And Turtle Talk is very cute and ***appropriate*** at the Living Seas. I welcome it there as a nice diversion because it entertains many children and is properly placed. Oh and I give Nemo musical at Animal Kingdom a huge thumbs up too-- great show! But I find Turtle Talk to be a dubious fit on the American Waterfront at Disney Sea. So in this case I argue not because of cartoon based but because of improper context. Like I said a few posts ago maybe it's better to use that mouse from the cartoon Rescuers since it has some connection to New York(and no I don't like that movie as I've never seen it).
