Originally Posted By mousermerf 4.0 - Rocket Rods was 2.0 and that well.. you saw how well that worked and heck, 1.0 nearly self destructed too but they weren't about to tear down a whole Epcot pavilion and start over.
Originally Posted By Manfried Mr. Weis and his team will do just fine if Mr. Fitzgerald doesn't interfere too much.
Originally Posted By Manfried Weis doesn't design shows that have to have overly long preshow videos.
Originally Posted By mousermerf I wasn't aware that was the reason that was why SSE has nothing but black curtain for the entire descent portion instead of show scenes...
Originally Posted By mousermerf Further, Weis brought back as the lead on SSE renovation was touted as working on the sound design on original - but on the renovation you can't hear the music at all, which would be the result of a poor sound design. The renovation really is a train wreck. I can't help but be worried for for Carsland knowing what happened to SSE under his "lead."
Originally Posted By mousermerf And - the silver lining? Siemens last week signed a 10 year contract with WDW for their water systems meaning they'll be around for a while like AT&T was, like the first sponsor of SSE was, like how SSE opened with it's first narration and crappy original ending that got axed after the first few years before we got the new Walter Cronkite, Tomorrow's Child, and everything loved since then. Thank god - we can only go up from here.
Originally Posted By barboy ///4.0/// Rocket Rods used the same basic ride system as Test Track, JTTCE and soon to be Rad. Racers? Really? I did not know that.
Originally Posted By barboy I share SuperDry's assumption that Mermaid and Rad. Racers will become instant classics---- they will be bonafide "E's".
Originally Posted By barboy ///Yep. It's true./// Well that certainly explains why both Test Track and Rocket Rods had abysmal "track records" for durability and constitution-----break downs seemed to happen daily early on. I think JTTCE had/has less problems than his two predecessors but it too has been known to break down.
Originally Posted By mousermerf There's a strange irony that TT's track is overbanked for the speed it travels for the majority of the final speed portion... (Interlude: it is physically capable of traveling faster but as the rumor & partially confirmed test run story goes doing so invokes a failure point at the re-entry to the building which is-not-thus-banked.) ... while Rocket Rods was plagued with problems because they did not bank the track enough and ran the vehicles too fast.
Originally Posted By barboy And then there is Journey to the Center of the Earth which has more "banking" than Rocket Rods but less than Test Track.... and, again, I believe it has less breakdowns than those two(but still too many).
Originally Posted By Manfried I think it was Gertz who worked on SSE not Weis. And Weis brought us Disney/MGM Studios.
Originally Posted By Westsider Goofy's Sky School (remake of Mulholland Madness) begins construction this fall. The adjacent new restaurants and dining patio also get underway at the same time. They can't do it all at once, especially back in that one corner of the park that people and parades have to maneuver through every day. Currently the major project back there is Silly Symphony Swings, with three minor projects also underway back there; Golden Zephyr refresh, SS Rustworthy demolition, Corn Dog Castle/Souvenir 66 complex construction. There's a lot going on back there already. You have to keep the capacity up for the entire park, and with two attractions currently closed, two dining facilities and one shop shut down long term, plus a lot of surface reconstruction around the area, that's about all they can do at one time. That area will reopen partway done by April, in time for World of Color opening, and it will stay in that form through summer. By September more attractions and restaurants back there shut down, and more construction takes over from late 2010 through late Spring 2011. The goal is to have that corner all complete and rethemed by early Summer 2011 for the opening of Little Mermaid. This has all been explained multiple times from official WDI sources at public events like D23 Expo, to unofficial yet accurate statements from Al Lutz, etc. I'm surprised people here are forgetting all of this, and are demanding to know why the DCA Makeover scheduled to be complete by Summer 2012 is not yet finished to their satisfaction by March, 2010.
Originally Posted By mousermerf I'm not complaining it's not done - I'm just contending that no one actually cares about that structure in the first place. It's like asking if the Outpost is integral to Epcot. It's just not. And back to SSE - cuz that is important - Weis was the person that dragged out for the cameras and the press releases, so if he didn't want to take the blame he shouldn't have grabbed the microphone. I've never heard of this Gertz person before.
Originally Posted By mousermerf <<<This has all been explained multiple times from official WDI sources at public events like D23 Expo, to unofficial yet accurate statements from Al Lutz, etc. >>> Westie, you do know we also know they pretty much admitted in the last 48 hours at the D23 WDW event that they lied to us about pretty much everything we thought we knew about the Fantasyland Forest except the princess meet and greet "ideas" right? So we're a little hesitant to trust much of what they say they have "planned" long term at the moment.
Originally Posted By mousermerf And a quick quip before folks say "merf, you're taking that statement a bit far.." Things have been trending down here and elsewhere in the fandom for a while.. but since that shoe dropped there was a brief flurry of "Really!?!" tweet and posts and it beer very eerie quiet on the Eastern front since then. If that doesn't suggest the mouse has thoroughly put itself in the dog house with the WDW fan base I don't know what would...
