Originally Posted By basil fan Good point about the hoop skirt. I found this to be a good movie, just not up to my expectations, which were very high. Snot, doo-doo, dogs lifting their legs--these things just aren't funny IMO. Drool is so-so, burps I can live with, the rest just falls flat every time with me. But the real problem: the opening animated sequence was so phenomenal, anything after it was doomed to disappoint. I know the animation, characters and actions were cranked up a notch farther than they would have been in a true animated Disney film, but they were wonderfully magical. When Giselle got to New York, I felt like someone had changed the channel on me. That said, I think I've spent enough time on the negatives. I'd like to talk about the many, many excellent points in the movie, but my neice wants to use the computer for awhile. So that will wait for another time. Disney Glitches <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/disney/dglitch.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ disney/dglitch.html</a>
Originally Posted By wingednike >>>>There is one moment in Enchanted that to me really stands out above the rest of the movie and reveals a wonderful heart. It's when Giselle finds out that the couple is getting a divorce. That scene is absolutely brilliant. At first you want to laugh at Giselle's naive reaction, but then you almost want to cry. The idea that divorce is taken so for granted in this world that the idea that someone would be shocked is laughable. But that idea is also very depressing at the same time.<<<< That is one of my favorite scenes in the movie and I actually DID tear up at it. I think the Banks' situation and resolution, in conjunction with Giselle's belief in instantaneous love, illustrates a very good point; it's possible to fall in love at first sight but hard work is needed keep that love steady.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>That is one of my favorite scenes in the movie and I actually DID tear up at it. I think the Banks' situation and resolution, in conjunction with Giselle's belief in instantaneous love, illustrates a very good point; it's possible to fall in love at first sight but hard work is needed keep that love steady.<<< A lot of thought went into that. Like I said, the film is much smarter than many people realize, and in fact, one of its graces is, you don't see those things coming at you. Good moralizing should not FEEL like moralizing. It should be gently absorbed and penetrating, but not intrusive.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: So true, BlueOhanaTerror, duckling! The many positive points this wonderful movie makes fully eclipse any of the 'negatives' a few ducklings have pointed out--which are pretty minor when you stop to think about the over-all message of Enchanted. Can you imagine how The Sound of Music would be ripped apart if it were to be released for the first time in this modern era of jaded and cynical critics? Even back in 1965 it was panned. But the audience was smarter and knew what it loved. Enchanted has a similar effect. It brings out the caring, inspirational spirit of most who watch it. Let's hope your Frog Princess and Rapunzel are able to accomplish the same success!
Originally Posted By Dlmusic <<illustrates a very good point; it's possible to fall in love at first sight but hard work is needed keep that love steady.>> So true, and yet despite what many people are saying here it didn't seem to me that the movie itself believed that. I mean, are we supposed to believe that Giselle and Robert fall in love at first sight? Cause it certainly seemed that Giselle was blisfully unaware of Robert and Robert thought Giselle was a wierdo. Certainly that sort of akward first meeting reflects real life and is fine, but I wish the movie came together more cohesively for me. <an you imagine how The Sound of Music would be ripped apart if it were to be released for the first time in this modern era of jaded and cynical critics?> Well I don't know about modern critics but I have very little to complain about Sound of Music that wouldn't be more of a nitpick. In fact, the only thing that comes to mind is that it's a little strange that the Captain and Maria go on a two week honeymoon while the Nazis are trampling through their home country. But again, nitpick.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: If you stop to look back at the relationship between Robert and Giselle, you'll see that they DID fall in love with each other over and over again on very subtle levels until it became obvious to them. If this went over your head as you watched it, perhaps this is why you weren't able to appreciate it as some of the rest of us did. But that's okay. Not every movie speaks to the hearts of everyone.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror The fact that they do NOT fall in love at first sight, but gradually and then have that magic "turning point" is also designed. It's intentional, as a contrast to the more superficial way that in her own world, Giselle falls "in love" with Phillip.
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Originally Posted By jdub Well, it looks like these days just about all of the "family" films have a, uhm, "heap" of scatalogical humor, such as it is. I think it's unnecessary, unoriginal, and lazy--and therefore unfunny. Will it stop? My 8-ball seems pessimistic.
Originally Posted By Inkan1969 About the scat jokes; I usually hate them, too. But I didn't find them all that extreme here. Pip's turd dropping gag is the same as the Gingerbread Man's joke in "Shrek the Third". But this time I laughed as it had a context; just another ( mercifully brief ) reminder that Pip's now a real chipmunk. The Gingerbread Man's joke; that was just disgusting. X-P I agree that the plot had problems. Everyone's noted that Phillip would've never taken Giselle in in real life, and I actually didn't see why they fell in love. But I liked the Andalasian characters and the production numbers so much that I really enjoyed the movie.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Don't be so sure that there aren't men out there who would take some gorgeous woman into their homes in 'real life'. I've actually known it to happen--only in reverse! (It was a woman who happened to take in a man after meeting him for the first time.) ORGOCH: Kidnappin' don't count, ya tramp!! I should think ya'd be too humiliated ta bring up such a disgustin' subject 'bout yerself, anyways!! ORWEN: Well, I just wanna' say that I CAN believe there are really men out there in the 'real world' who would take in a damsal in distress. You shouldn't be so cynical, Inkan1969, duckling. You should also believe in Love at first sight because it's happened to me so many times I've lost count! ORGOCH: Went an' lost yer MIND, too, sister! Between yerself and the tramp, I ain't sure which sister's the craziest!!
Originally Posted By Dlmusic <Well, it looks like these days just about all of the "family" films have a, uhm, "heap" of scatalogical humor, such as it is. I think it's unnecessary, unoriginal, and lazy--and therefore unfunny. Will it stop? My 8-ball seems pessimistic.>> I especially don't think it will stop if you give writers a pass on it. I think they should be called out on it every single time. If I'm going to make a public statement about enjoying a movie that had material I thought was inappropriate, I will bring up the questionable material because I feel that unless people bring it up everyone will assume that it is what people want. I have to say while the scat humor got some chuckles at the two showings of Enchanted I saw, it was certainly not the louder and more well deserved laughter that some of the other scenes got. C'mon Disney, you can get ride of smoking, why not make an effort to get rid of biological functions for the sake of humor? Isn't that good for the benefit of mankind too?
Originally Posted By basil fan You said it! Disney Bloopers <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/glitch/disneyglitch.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ glitch/disneyglitch.html</a>
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I agree. Bathroom humor has no place in a Disney film for the family. Perhpas they can at least edit out the offensive material by the time there is one of those DVD things to come out on ENCHANTED.
Originally Posted By Brown Monkey But what was really so offensive about that anyway? I think it was clever that there was "bathroom" humor, because of the mere fact that in the "real" world, that would seem "offensive". Yet to sweet, naive Giselle, from the fairy tale world, it was purely innocent. She saw nothing wrong with what she was doing. Remember, we've also seen Cinderella showering, and Ariel clothless on the beach. So I see no difference.
Originally Posted By Brown Monkey Ok wait, when you say bathroom humor, what are you referring to exactly?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: We're referring to the scene involving Pip at the restaurant. ORWEN: He did something there that should have been done only in a bathroom-- ORGOCH: --or an outhouse!! Got it now?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Hmmm, well we went to see this the other day. I enjoyed it but was a little disappointed. I loved the dance scenes, the dragon, the towel scene and the plot that the princess was the real saviour. However, the pacing was out (slow in the begining), animation looked like a Don Bluth rather than a Disney - subpar. And although there were some funny jokes, I couldn't help but feel a sense of deju vu. I give this one a C+ maybe a B-. A shame as I had high hopes and the critics seemed to love it.
