Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Haunted Mansion had it's refurb on 2007, and honestly still looks like it opened up last week. >>> As long as all of the effects remain working, I don't really care how frequently or infrequently they take an attraction down for maintenance. Actually, within that context, the lesser the better. But remember the state that HM was in prior to the 2007 refurb. It was horrendous, and I don't use that word lightly or mean to exaggerate. It was like it was a totally different attraction with as many things that were broken as there were. Especially the music.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> As long as all of the effects remain working, I don't really care how frequently or infrequently they take an attraction down for maintenance. Actually, within that context, the lesser the better. But remember the state that HM was in prior to the 2007 refurb. It was horrendous, and I don't use that word lightly or mean to exaggerate. It was like it was a totally different attraction with as many things that were broken as there were. Especially the music.<<< Agreed in full. If it doesn't need it, don't do it. But whatever they did and continue to do to the HM is fantastic. It ALWAYS looks great now. They must have a very strict maintenance schedule for it.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***<<<Everything was working and looked perfect>>> But you can't bash MK and say it's no TDL if nothing is wrong*** Sure you can. Even if everything is working (and really, isn't is SUPPOSED to be!?), TDL is a VASTLY superior park in every aspect.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***There hasn't been an annual refurb in over 10 years at any of the parks*** Any of the WDW parks, you mean? Maybe that's why they suck so bad (as SuperDry pointed out so clearly). I'm pretty sure many if not most if not all of the attractions in Tokyo get annual rehabs. If not annual, certainly frequent. And they are well maintained in between. But you don't need THAT fact to stand in the way of comparing, name ANYTHING in the Magic Kingdom and I'll prove to you that Tokyo Disneyland does it better. Anything.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^Jungle Cruise is basically the same, save for the birds in the Amazon.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I was on Pirates last night Spirit, and I must say I disagree. Everything was working and looked perfect, minus the hat pirate who still doesn't have his hats.>> I was on PoC three times last week and I can only tell you what my eyes and ears saw. Of course, it is possible with the Pow Wow party that Disney came thru and fixed many of the items, even quick fixes to make things look better for the Travel Business whorefest. <<Also, I'll just add some things that got me excited. There's new props all over the Jungle Cruise queue, and EVERY effect(including the waterfall across from load) was working last night during my shift. The team in charge of the Jungle has been top notch the past year, and I must thank them.>> That's good to hear. I didn't take any cruises around the jungle this time.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer The Walt Disney Company and it's Resorts, honestly does not have that many problems. When you remove Walt Disney World from the equation, that is. I honestly think that this Resort has the most issues and incongruencies than any other "thing" in the company's reach. When you look at the picture, that's not such a bad thing. ...But seeing that's the focus of these boards, it is an issue, a very big one. Just a thought.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<But you can't bash MK and say it's no TDL if nothing is wrong. >> Amazing what a sour experience in trying to prove yourself on the left coast has done to you, Merfie. Unless you're looking for someone in TDO to take you under their ... ah ... uhm ... ugh ... wing and put you to ... use why would you want to give any credit to the MK or its management team. That park has been largely a disaster in ops and show quality since the turn of the century ... Bashing the MK has become en vogue with fans because the place simply isn't close to what it once was or what other MK-style parks are. Would you now suggest that TDL is an equal or lesser experience than MK? Or do you just miss O-Town/Bois-Town a lot?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<You act like it's news to report that every effect is actually working.>> and this IS WDW we are talking about here ... sadly it IS news when things work exactly as intended.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 And WDW is the ONLY resort where attraction rehabs are not done on an annual (sometimes more frequent, sometimes a bit less, but still close) basis. The BS answer now spewed forth via the social media whores that the Weatherman so covets is that WDW can't close attractions because it will ruin so many 'once in a lifetime' visits. My response to that BS is simply if people are coming only once and that's Disney's goal, then why would they give a flying &^%$ whether people have a magical time or not. It's either/or. Can't have it both ways.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> My response to that BS is simply if people are coming only once and that's Disney's goal, then why would they give a flying &^%$ whether people have a magical time or not. It's either/or. Can't have it both ways.<<< Yes, that.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> My response to that BS is simply if people are coming only once and that's Disney's goal, then why would they give a flying &^%$ whether people have a magical time or not. It's either/or. Can't have it both ways. << You have such an eloquent way of putting things into perspective.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^I know I do. It scares people. You should have seen some emails that went out today to some folks who owe the Spirit some serious cash.
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^People wander into the Everglades all the time, and are never heard from again.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///and EVERY effect(including the waterfall across from load) was working last night during my shift./// I know SuperDry got some of that earlier but I want a piece of it too. Every effect working.....imagine that! It's a sad day when that is noteworthy. If only the US parks could stay maintained like those in Tokyo; I guess the US park goers, as a whole, are either too ignorant to know what clean and fully operational mean or are just plain apathetic about quality.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer There's always a little part of me that wonders, if guests (no, not really wondering..) are to blame for the bad maint. At opening time, and at low capacity times, the parks do look nice. Sure, there are some issues, but I wonder if the issues we complain about are due to our fellow (bumpkin) guests..
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I guess the US park goers, as a whole, are either too ignorant to know what clean and fully operational mean or are just plain apathetic about quality. >> I would hope that this isn't directed at me, considering I'm one of the least lenient people when it comes to WDW.
