Originally Posted By Dabob2 This is conservative "divide and conquer" tactics, nothing more. Yeah, let's get gays and blacks mad at each other. Let's ignore the fact that the bulk of support for prop 8 was from the far more numerous white religious right. Let's blame blacks instead and try to pit gays against them. Ain't gonna work.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^That's exactly right. From the article that I referenced earlier: >>Prop. 8 found support among 81 percent of white evangelicals, 65 percent of white Protestants, 64 percent of Catholics and 84 percent of weekly worshipers. In the exit poll's only nonwhite category involving race and religion, 58 percent of nonwhite religious voters supported the measure. The size of these groups gave them a substantial impact on the Prop. 8 outcome: White evangelicals comprised 17 percent of the electorate, Catholics comprised 30 percent, and Republicans comprised 29 percent.<< Darkbeer's argument is nothing more than a ploy to deflect the blame from the real segment of California voters that overwhelmingly supported Prop 8: conservative Christians.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Moreover, you just have to wonder about the motivation behind posting something like this and fervent Yes on 8 peeople in general. After a while, you're left with little choice but to wonder if they even read what the other side has to say or if they're all truly clueless, hardcore bigots, or both. For the millionth time, this will come down to the courts, making it ultimately a legal issue for which one will need legal arguments. Raising such issues as here, pitting gays against blacks, is a spin off of the "will of the people" empty mantra, as "the will of the people" can't vote in something that's unconstitutional. If all you've got is "will of the people" in court, you're in trouble. So why start yet another gay marriage thread? Why, unless one is truly clueless, ask why anti-Prop 8 is targeting religious groups? Did the OP even pay attention during the campaign? Yes on 8 all about legislating a religious morality and was almost entirely funded by either certain religions or affiliated groups. Can even the OP say with a straight face there were no lies told in the Yes on 8 ads that targeted other religious groups (lies about marriage being taught, etc>)? Our society is ever evolving and changing. The last significant layer of discrimination we peeled off was segregation. It's now time for gay equality. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
