Originally Posted By leobloom I believe it was the Social Media thread from last summer that led to Spirit's banishment. Which is a shame, because it contained interesting discussion that the WDW board hasn't seen since.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I had slowed down my posting because I was getting tired of a lot of neg. post. It just wasn't fun to read, I work for the mouse and I love Disney. Sometimes it was like having someone point our your family worst mistakes and keep bring them up and never letting you forget about it. << Two things. 1. Knowing you work for Disney helps explain why you've never posted anything slightly negative about the Mouse. 2. To build on your metaphor, I'd rather confront the brother's drug abuse than pretend he doesn't have a problem while continuing to enable his addiction.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA For me, I"d rather read what's described as the "negative" and "controversial" threads than the softer, fluffy stuff. The threads like "If You Coukd Be One Character from "Brave" Who Would it Be?" provide little interest for me. But the cool thing is that I can read or not read any thread that I want. I do miss Spirit and jonvn and TDLFAN -- they had a lot of passion.
Originally Posted By -em Me three... I miss the 'old LP' where it took hours to catch up instead of 1-2 minutes.. Where we could argue and banter and have different opinions and at the end of the day walk away as friends vs whiny codependant crybabies who feel picked on when people disagree and insist everyone conform to their point of view.. Sad how LP meets that used to last 3-4 days take 1/2 day and are all locals and still less than a dozen people.. I am forever grateful for my close friends I met through LP but the glory days are gone..
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I miss everyone from the old days as well. And, I have made great friends on this board. I also don't think the glory days are over. I just wish I had more time to participate in LP meets and such. Unfortunately, other things have gotten in the way. At least I can always log on to this board and catch up with friends.
Originally Posted By CDF2 Any ideas on why the downfall of Pleasure Island? Too much to expect resort guests to spend long hours in the parks and then still have any energy for nightlife? Too many families with small kids where babysitting is not really an option in a place like WDW? Too many resorts with their own dining and activities that make a trip to PI unnecessary? Too many resort guests operating on a budget or using WDW dining options that keep them at their own resort? Lack of bookings at the franchised resort hotels in the PI area as opposed to Disney hotels which are spread out across the property.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom There are a lot of reasons why PI shut down. Probably the biggest reason was that times had changed. I think PI lost much of it's appeal to your typical guest. And I don't think that was the direction that WDW wanted to go any longer. Certainly contributors were guests bringing children into that area and the increasing Sheriff's Deputy presence in that area. I really don't see how attandence at the Downtown Disney Hotels played a factor. If anything you could easily make the arguement that with the presence of Sarasota Springs Resort just across the lake ( with it's own walkway ) the crowds around Downtown Disney areas increased not decreased. I know another factor is that WDW management made a decision to decrease management of everything, from restaurants to golf courses. This brought in the era of Landry food consessions everywhere on WDW property. I always hoped that perhaps WDW had come up with a grand plan for the area. Unfortunately, it seems that other than the constant build of DVCs, AoA resort and Fantasyland expansion, any other construction project at WDW seems is on the back burner.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt Plus, last week was DL's Anniversary & a lot of posters were there. I found MPierce on FB but, where is everyone else?
Originally Posted By danyoung >I do miss Spirit and jonvn and TDLFAN -- they had a lot of passion.< Wow - the three guys that I clashed with the most in my online thread storming history! I recently read on another site a thread started by the Spirit, and his post and most of the rabid responses were so over the top negative that it was just funny to read. I think the Spirit got tired of being so negative and not getting the response that he wanted. When enough people disagree with you, all the time, then maybe it's time to go somewhere else.
Originally Posted By MinnieSummer I miss TDLFAN as well. But I like many others rarely get on this site and when I do I don't bother posting. I think this is probably my first post in over a year. I left because while I appreciate the honest appraisals of WDW I really didn't like some of the personal attacks that I witnessed and experienced. But I just wanted to say that I miss TDLFAN.
Originally Posted By dshyates Spirit got BANNED when he refused to stop posting the names of mid-level executives. He was told to stop, but he is on a mission. I really enjoy the more contentious posters, they seem very passionate about the product. Disney has a really bad habit of slacking without people like Lutz and the Spirit publicly pointing out their laziness.
Originally Posted By danyoung I have no problem with contention - in fact, I look forward to a good argument. But when people keep falling back on the same ol' tired ideas, when they insist on taking things personal and insulting, when they spout out drivel and then take offense when someone calls them on it - well, I'd rather not keep mucking about in the same old crap day after day after day . . .
Originally Posted By sjhym333 I agree. There is a difference between a lively discussion about Disney where two parties disagree about a certain point (can we say FP?) and attacking people. I always felt that it was unfair to name mid-level executives at Disney when the reality is that most of them have very little authority to change things in a big way. They are employees of a big company like many of us. And those of us who work for large companies know that make substantial changes is difficult or impossible because of culture or structure. I also don't miss the endless quoting of previous posts and take them apart line by line. My feeling was make your point and move on. Having said that...I think the boards are not as interesting now that many of the long time posters have moved on.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 okay- just happened to sign in today for the first time in quite a while...I left mainly because of the extreme negativity that was running about 5-1 for a period of time. I am far from a Pollyna yet if you said you liked something - no matter how many facts you may have..or if it was just your feeling, you got ripped. I do spend time on facebook and have about 25-30 people here ( or were here ) that I am connected to..including a few of those listed as the controversial people. it was just a general overall tone that I am checking to see if it has left yet. Heck when I left quietly ..it was actually saner in W/E than WDW. I do miss a lot of the long time posters though - especially the ones I do not have on facebook. As for the Facebook group- they are great
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I tired of the air of superiority projected by the Spirit, even though I enjoyed reading his stuff. He seemed to come across as feeling "Since I KNOW all these IMPORTANT Disney people and you don't, and I have the INSIDE INFORMATION that you lack, why don't you all just shut up and accept whatever I say??" This was more in the later months than the earlier years... not quite sure what happened to The Spirit. The sad fact is, most of the "INSIDE INFORMATION" you learn from mid-level Disney execs ends up being no better than what you hear from the newbie CM at the entrance to Buzz who has been on the job exactly two weeks!
Originally Posted By dshyates This place is so dead that no one has even mentioned the rumored DHS $750 Million make over. Or the fact that there were a bunch of height test baloons up over DAK last week. I only come here to argue with conservatives in the WE section.
Originally Posted By leobloom Hey, at least all the negative Nancies are gone, right? (Of course, so is almost everybody else.) I see Vbdad's posts still look like he's typing while driving 150 mph in heavy traffic. "Heck when I left quietly"? What are you talking about, you made a dramatic exit, swearing off LP and pledging to have your account erased. Didn't seem quietly.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Hey, at least all the negative Nancies are gone, right?<< Nope, I'm still here! I'm just quietly reading to myself, chiming in when I have something worthwhile to add. : )
