Originally Posted By crapshoot <<To me, Disney has jumped the shark....>> Yeah, but in reference to Happy Days, they went on to make another 108 episodes after Fonzie jumped the shark. I think that a better analogy would be the Cousin Oliver Effect. The Brady Bunch only lasted three episodes after Cousin Oliver showed up. But in all seriousness, I don't quite know how to get Disney away from toons. True Life Adventures have run their course, all the classic Disney costume dramas have come and gone, etc., etc., etc. The only segment of the Walt Disney Company that has pumped out any fodder over the last several decades would be animation. In other words, either it is a Disney Amusement Park or a Disney Themepark. Had there been a film based on SuperStarLimo, for instance, at least there would have been some sort of emotional connection that the guests could have made. So you bet, Disney is going to bank on their own intellectual property or that of another's that they have signed an licensing agreement with. In either case, Disney is going to first make certain that the public will have already bonded with a property from a different media format before turning it into an attraction. And no doubt, they have already determined from long ago, that Toons gives them the most bang for their buck.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub What about All Disney Villains themed Resort for future development?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Disney is going to first make certain that the public will have already bonded with a property from a different media format before turning it into an attraction. And no doubt, they have already determined from long ago, that Toons gives them the most bang for their buck.<<< This to me is very depressing. No PotC, no Haunted Mansion, no Mission to Mars, no Carousel of Progress type of attractions anymore. Just like MTV no longer shows music videos, Disney parks no longer are immersive theme parks....
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<This to me is very depressing. No PotC, no Haunted Mansion, no Mission to Mars, no Carousel of Progress type of attractions anymore.>> So davewasbaloo, what is your opinion on the film reference changes made to TSI, POTC, Nightmare Before Christmas Jack Skellington makeover, tooning up of ISASW, Sub ride and Autopia. Let's see, that only leaves Big Thunder Railroad, Jungle Cruise and Matterhorn that remain autonomous.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>>And no doubt, they have already determined from long ago, that Toons gives them the most bang for their buck.<<< "This to me is very depressing. No PotC, no Haunted Mansion, no Mission to Mars, no Carousel of Progress type of attractions anymore." I think you are taking it too far Dave. Mystic Manor and the Big Grizzly Mine Train attractions at HKDL aren't based on any current Disney properties, nor is DCA's forthcoming Buena Vista Street. I share your view on this subject in general, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that Disney has completely stopped innovating original stories and concepts for its parks.
Originally Posted By ImgineerBob Disney is going to first make certain that the public will have already bonded with a property from a different media format before turning it into an attraction. That is so lazy though, come up with an original story disney!!!
Originally Posted By ImgineerBob Also - I remember visiting DCA three months after if opened and thought it was a good start. Some areas were top notch. The only area that made me shudder in horror was Paradise Pier. If they bulldozed that whole area I would have been happy. Bow seeing what they have dine to remake that area is astounding. I am so impressed. My wish would be a better entrance to Screamin.' I agree with you dennis, I thought the HPB and grizzley peak areas were extremely well done and very well themed.
Originally Posted By ImgineerBob Hollywood is quickly becoming the Tomorrowland of DCA. LOL Crazycroc I thought the exact same thing the other day. They should go 1967 on this section;shut it down and competly redo it.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<They should go 1967 on this section;shut it down and competly redo it.>> My feeling is that this will be an absolute jem when completed. Cars Land may be the greatest in stylization, but Buena Vista Street should win out in respectability.
Originally Posted By ImgineerBob I would never have built cars land, the sequel flooped and it is unneeded
Originally Posted By Yookeroo Finally! An original topic here. Too many topics have been beaten to death. Now we've got something fresh to discuss.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<I would never have built cars land, the sequel flooped and it is unneeded>> Whether it flooped or not is no big deal in today's film market. They will make up for it with a Christmas DVD release. It's great to pontificate what DCA should have had or not have had when it originally opened for attractions. But what it didn't have was an immersive space with a great energy to it. I found the Farm to be unoriginal, boring and frankly, an embarassment. That space would have been better served if it had construction walls around it for the first five years that the park was open. Cars Land will bring a much needed dynamic to the park. It will help its bottom line, and that is the ultimate goal.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "I would never have built cars land, the sequel flooped and it is unneeded" $180+ million domestic gross. Almost $400 worldwide. Lots of studios would love a flop like that.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "$180+ million domestic gross. Almost $400 worldwide. Lots of studios would love a flop like that." Not to mention the enormous revenue generated by the Cars franchise, which is second only to Star Wars.
Originally Posted By crazycroc Another place that smells like pee... Turtle Talk with Crush. I'm gonna go in there with a blacklight to look for body fluids.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Well, I like attractions with movie tie-in's as long as the attraction is of good quality. I just don't understand the Disney character bashing that goes on around here. If it weren't for a character--Mickey Mouse--there would be no Disney mythology and no Disney theme parks. To not like the Disney characters is to not like Disney. Besides that, there are plenty of attractions around with no particular movie tie-ins. ORDDU: Of course there are some movie tie-in attractions, such as the Monsters Commedy thing in Florida's Magic Kingdom that leave much to be desired. ORWEN: We're not a fan of Stitch's Great Escape, either. But it's not the character tie in that ruins it. It's the way they go about doing the whole attraction. We didn't like it when it was Alien Encounter, either.
Originally Posted By ImgineerBob "$180+ million domestic gross" Thats after over one month in the Theatres and a production cost of 300 million... it isn't making money, which can be considered a flop. The Reviews also were not that kind to it either. It honestly opened in a bad movie summer, with films like potter, pirates and captain america, cars is now pretty much taking (No pun intended) a backseat to this summer's blockbusters.
Originally Posted By TP2000 And yet, somehow, 12 months from now the line for Luigi's Flying Tires will fill the entire queue, the Fastpasses for Radiator Springs Racers will be gone every day before Flo's V8 Cafe stops serving breakfast, and the Cars merchandise will be flying off the shelves. We can geekfest all we want about whether a movie that "only" pulled in 400 Million in its first month is a flop or not, but at the end of the day the kids love it and the parents will be booking trips to Anaheim next summer partly because of it. TDA will laugh all the way to the bank over the 400 Million dollar Cars 2 "flop".
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt In many cases a film's box office gross doesn't matter as much as it used to. The life span of a movie in theaters seems to be getting shorter and shorter each year, with as much as a quarter of the domestic gross earned in the first weekend of release. The long term financial sustainability of a film franchise matters far more than how much the film took in during a single theatrical release. Consider the fact that Disney is still makes money from Snow White, a film that was released in 1937. Whatever Cars 2 cost to make (I doubt that it was $300 million, BTW) Disney should have no problem making it back in merchandise and DVD sales.
