Originally Posted By oc_dean I don't know if it's me ... but every time someone post a link for both places .. they always come up: Error With no photo
Originally Posted By mousermerf I can't see shiz - the linked site seems to have issues with being thusly linked. Did we ever figure out if it's double decker?
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I can't see shiz - the linked site seems to have issues with being thusly linked. It's because people are copying and pasting from my original post. For some reason the links report an error when they are copied and pasted that way. Going back to post 85, here are the images being discussed: Original artwork... <a href="http://progresscityusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/dca-4.jpg" target="_blank">http://progresscityusa.com/wp-...ca-4.jpg</a> Latest artwork... <a href="http://www.originald.com/pics/updates/2009-08-06/DCA/Large/IMG_0284.JPG" target="_blank">http://www.originald.com/pics/...0284.JPG</a> We were saying that the latter has more of a Santa Cruz Boardwalk feel to it than the original concept.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL While I agree that the newer concept looks Santa Cruz-ish, the original looks more inviting and fun. And I liked the originals' use of a second POFA Dome as a bookend to tie the buildings architecture together.
Originally Posted By tonyanton The first looks a bit more fanciful and more like a concept than the second. Either version would be HUGE improvement over the bland "Golden Dreams" building and mural! (IMO)
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I think the second building will transition better from the San Francisco and Wharf areas better than the first one would.
Originally Posted By tonyanton speaking of re-theming, when are they going to start work on the remaining shops on the pier?
Originally Posted By irishfan I really like the second version more, it kind of reminds me of Musee d Orsay in Paris for some reason. <a href="http://www.sitebits.com/images/photo/musee-d-orsay-1.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.sitebits.com/images...ay-1.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By dshyates I like the first one better, but I think the second one will fit in better with where it is going in the park. The spires of the first one simply wouldn't fit in very well with the ""real world" SoCal texture that is so predominant in DCA.
Originally Posted By dshyates Oh, I wanted to add that I think the forst one would be much better fit for WDW's version that the concept art for what IS going into WDW. <a href="http://disneylandnewstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/ariels_adventure_7477.jpg" target="_blank">http://disneylandnewstoday.com...7477.jpg</a> Especially the entrance to Ariels Grotto into the rock wall with the sign and all. I think they are trying to replicate the entrance into Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey. Only it seems MUCH cheesier. <a href="http://mpelembe.blogware.com/_photos/prnphotos062447-UNIVERSAL-ORLANDO-R.jpg" target="_blank">http://mpelembe.blogware.com/_...DO-R.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Hmmm, i would have thought the 1st one would fit in really well with San Francisco. It looks very much like the now destroyed (and it seems forgotten) Pan Pacific Exposition buildings the city had. My Great Grandmother was a huge fan of the Expo and had several souvenirs that I used to poor over as a young boy. The second one is ok, especially if we hadn't seen the 1st rendering, but it definately looks more Southern Cal (e.g. cheaper, less ornate and functional)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Ok, maybe a little unfair, So Cal does have some lovely buildings too, but they seem more ornate in ratio in the BAy Area (biased, I know).
Originally Posted By Schmitty Good Vibes About the depth of the excavation, There is a LOT that goes on below the floor of an omnimover, and it extends quite a ways. There are patent drawings out there on the web.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I like the first one better, but I think the second one will fit in better with where it is going in the park. The spires of the first one simply wouldn't fit in very well with the ""real world" SoCal texture that is so predominant in DCA.> I hear you; but on the other hand, I still think the first one could have worked. In fact, the Avalon Cove building is kind of whimsical/fanciful, (though also based on a real building; in this case the Avalon Casino on Catalina) and with it on one end of the lagoon, and the LM building on the other, they could have kind of balanced each other. I still do like the second version, and it will be a good addition. I just don't like it as well as the first.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The Avalon Cove building is supposed to be based on the Casino? They really look nothing alike. I guess the area with the Cove Bar and the little thingy on the roof kind of looks like a way scaled down version of the Casino, but that's about the extent of it, IMO. I think it might even be a stretch to say that Avalon Cove was even inspired by the Casino, since there really are very few similarities. However, I definatley agree about the spires matching each other nicely. That would be a nice way to detach the Pier from the rest of the park. If you have to walk past one of the 'fantasy' buildings on the way in, then it would sort of set the mood for the rest of the area as being less realistic, and more romanticized. than the rest of the park, which might be a good direction to go in. http://www.mouseplanet.com/chef/avalonext.jpg <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23878201@N08/2272008878/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/2...2008878/</a>
Originally Posted By ni_teach tonyanton said: speaking of re-theming, when are they going to start work on the remaining shops on the pier? With so much other work being done I can not see them starting on this until after the holidays.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I really like the second version more, it kind of reminds me of Musee d Orsay in Paris for some reason." I also think that the second version picks up on the architectural style of the Palace of Fine Arts dome, which incidentally was part of a World's Fair in San Francisco in 1915. A panorama view of some of the fair's buildings can be seen at the link. <a href="http://www.kevinmarriott-art.com/san%20francisco%201915%20expo.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.kevinmarriott-art.c...expo.jpg</a> Although it's fanciful, the center section of the building in the first concept drawing looks out of place with the Palace of Fine Arts dome to me.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Hmmm, i would have thought the 1st one would fit in really well with San Francisco." Not really. Take a look at the link above.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I guess the area with the Cove Bar and the little thingy on the roof kind of looks like a way scaled down version of the Casino, but that's about the extent of it, IMO. I think it might even be a stretch to say that Avalon Cove was even inspired by the Casino, since there really are very few similarities.> I believe in some of the early promo pieces they say it was "inspired by," and obviously it had the "Avalon" name. It does look like a less stolid, more fanciful version, especially if you look at the area with the cupola as the center. <However, I definatley agree about the spires matching each other nicely. That would be a nice way to detach the Pier from the rest of the park. If you have to walk past one of the 'fantasy' buildings on the way in, then it would sort of set the mood for the rest of the area as being less realistic, and more romanticized. than the rest of the park, which might be a good direction to go in.> Yeah, that's what I thought, but I think that concept lost and the less fanciful one won out. I still like the second version, though.
