Originally Posted By FerretAfros Just because concept art or a model shows something doesn't mean that it will end up looking like that. There's a decent chance that there won't be the wires, or they will make some modification to them to allow parades through. In many real cities (including, presumably, LA), the wires are on the far side of the road, so they can be incorporated into the same poles as the street lamps. This would allow them to have the wires, but still allow plenty of room for big floats to fit by. Here's a picture that gets the general idea, from Sunset Blvd in the Studios in WDW: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/spudeaux/2505438887/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/s...5438887/</a> There will probably be some point where the two paths would need to cross (since the trolley will make a wide turn toward the entrance, while the parades will make a turn toward the Golden State area), which could cause some issues. I would see them solving this by either putting in poles that raise up above the floats, as they were planning to do with the HPB arch, or just having a span without the wire. I don't think that most people would notice the missing span, and there would be enough of the other wires to get the feeling of the era across to visitors (not to mention it would be way way cheaper to do that than to get the moving poles). I also saw some concept art a while ago that showed an arch across the walkway near the Little Mermaid building (about where the east edge of Souvenir 66 is). This would also presumably need to be mobile to allow floats through. They could either raise it straight up (which still imposes some height limits, but the same as the current parade barns do), or have it split in the middle and open like double doors to allow any floats through. Of course, it's all just a concept piece, so there's a decent chance that it won't actually look exactly like that. When was the last time all the details in the drawings made it to the parks?
Originally Posted By Disneydanny <That parade building to the east of Screamin' wasn't supposed to be there to begin with. It was added quickly in the winter of 2002 to house the Electrical Parade floats when that parade was brought back from the dead and shoehorned into DCA in July, 2001 as a "California Classic!" per Cynthia Harriss. For the first year of DCA's operation there was no building there, and never really a plan to have something there originally. When DCA opened in '01 and you went on Screamin', when you crossed over the bridge above the station in line you got a perfect view out across the parking lot and all the way to Harbor Blvd.> so if I read that right originally the Warehouse that stores the Tink,Train Pleasure Island,Finale floats is where the entire parade used to be stored?
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I thought the original parade building was demolished when TSMM was built.
Originally Posted By Westsider Nope. TSMM was built east of the parade building, on land that was once surface parking. DCA was originally built with lots of surface parking backstage around the perimeter of the park, for managers to park their cars near their offices. But after 9/11 the practice of managers parking backstage was stopped, and it's rare to see anything but Company cars backstage. TSMM was built on a surface parking lot behind the east Screamin' helix that had been mostly unused since September, 2001.
Originally Posted By jmuboy So DCA still has 2 parade storage facilities? One for Pixar Play and one for DEP?
Originally Posted By Mr F <<So DCA still has 2 parade storage facilities? One for Pixar Play and one for DEP?>> YEP! those warehouses are also where they store the floats for HSM, and Mickey's Halloween Treat.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt So, does anyone know what's happening with the Hollywood arch at the entrance to HPB? Will it be removed for the new trolley and the rerouted parades that will be going through this area?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Are they still going to have the powerlines over the trolley tracks? If they are, then there's not much of a point in trying to raise the HPB arch, which will be higher than the lines anyway.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I'm also wondering how you run a parade under trolley power lines.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt It all makes me think that the new parade route may be temporary until Carsland is completed.
Originally Posted By Hista98 ya i think the power lines will prevent the parade from being rerouted in 2012. Thank god!!! I thought it was stupid for the parade to run the whole length of the park. I hope disney is aware of the power line problem. It would be really embarresing if they rerouted the parade and then were like OOPS!!!
Originally Posted By believe I'm guessing Disney will use fake power lines and use instead, the technology that The Grove and Americana uses in their trolleys.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Interesting point. A single power line must be 'direct current' - right? This is dangerous; if the line ever dropped down onto the street it would create a possibly lethal hazard. Here in SF the rail trolleys use a single line, whereas the electric buses have two lines, allowing for 'alternating current'. But that would probably be too unsightly for disneyland, so perhaps they'll just have a "fake" cable for appearance's sake and actually use an internal power source. Just a guess ...
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "This is dangerous; if the line ever dropped down onto the street it would create a possibly lethal hazard." Has that ever happened anywhere?
Originally Posted By believe probably not very often, otherwise, they wouldn't still have these cables running around anymore.
Originally Posted By Hista98 even if they were fake i don't see the parade being able to be rerouted, becuase the lines will still be in the way.