Will We Ever Get Beyond the Abortion Issue?

Originally Posted By basas

Well we eventually got over the allowing of random killings in the middle ages...so going from our past, we eventually will get a little smarter, and stop these killings too.

 

Originally Posted By gurgitoy2

Well, murder has not ntopped. People still kill each other each and every day, and always will. Nobody will ever be able to completely stop women from getting abortions. There will always be somebody to perform them, or the women will take it upon themselves.

 

Originally Posted By gurgitoy2

The question is, can the public get past this issue as a deciding factor for political candidates?

 

Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder

"The question is, can the public get past this issue as a deciding factor for political candidates?"

Unfortunately, not any time soon. And that's really too bad. Makes you wonder on how many genuine leaders we passed by because of this.

 

Originally Posted By TomSawyer

I think we have an idea how many non-genuine leaders we have elected because of it, though.

 

Originally Posted By schoolsinger

Here is a question for those of you who think the abortion issue is not that important. If a politician believed that the killing of BORN babies should be made legal, but you agreed with them on all other issues, would you vote for him/her?

Many people who are strongly pro-life don’t see any distinction morally between killing a born or unborn child.

 

Originally Posted By TomSawyer

>>a politician believed that the killing of BORN babies should be made legal, but you agreed with them on all other issues, would you vote for him/her? <<

A lot of people support politicians who believe in capital punishment and that killing babies in war zones is justified but unfortunate.

 

Originally Posted By jdub

>>A lot of people support politicians who believe...that killing babies in war zones is justified but unfortunate.<<

Ruining SO many families in the process. Every time a "troop" (what a cold, cold word to call a PERSON) gets killed, that's a family broken up back home, often a baby growing up without one of its parents. Talk about "in defense of the family."






Not that any of this is on-topic, of course...

 

Originally Posted By Beaumandy

Roe was a bad ruling.

I think it will be overturned, as it should, and the states can make their own rules about abortion.

 

Originally Posted By basas

<<Well, murder has not ntopped. People still kill each other each and every day, and always will. >>

And they get punished for it (hopefully, and usually).


<<Nobody will ever be able to completely stop women from getting abortions. There will always be somebody to perform them, or the women will take it upon themselves. >>

See comment above^.


<<I think we have an idea how many non-genuine leaders we have elected because of it, though.>>
<<Unfortunately, not any time soon. And that's really too bad. Makes you wonder on how many genuine leaders we passed by because of this.>>

So because you don't consider it an important topic- we are wrong to use it as an election issue? Obviously many American's DO believe it is an important issue and that is why so many have made decisions by basing it off issues like abortion.

 

Originally Posted By tiggertoo

<<So because you don't consider it an important topic- we are wrong to use it as an election issue?>>

If you go back to the opening post, the discussion is about abortion being the "THE" issue of American politics or more/less the most important factor in determining a leader not just “AN†issue. I just don’t feel abortion should be the lynchpin of anyone’s campaign platform. For example it seems if a potential Republican is perfectly conservative in almost every way, yet Pro-Choice, he would be ostracized and passed over as a legitimate candidate by a large portion of the Republican block. The Harriet Meirs nomination is a perfect example of this and I believe a prominent reason this thread was started. It’s not the fact it is an issue, but THE issue.

 

Originally Posted By basas

<<For example it seems if a potential Republican is perfectly conservative in almost every way, yet Pro-Choice, he would be ostracized and passed over as a legitimate candidate by a large portion of the Republican block>>

Then obviously these people who are basing their vote off this one issue do indeed believe it is a very important topic, and until people don’t believe it’s a very important topic, yes, it will remain a election headline for years to come.

 

Originally Posted By tiggertoo

Exactly, which is implied in the initial question itself whether anyone likes it or not?

Hopefully, in the future there with be greater access to and more reliable methods of contraception and the abortion issue will be virtually moot. Until then, there are going to be people who use the abortion issue as the litmus test for choosing their candidates.

 

Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

>>Hopefully, in the future there with be greater access to and more reliable methods of contraception and the abortion issue will be virtually moot.<<

That's a good point. I can't help but wonder, if everyone on all sides of this issue had spent much of that time and energy into educating people on how to effectively avoid unwanted pregnancies in the first place, which is probably a starting point for finding some end to the debate, it would be a moot point.

I guess I just see so many people being judged on this one issue -- and you are correct tiggertoo, this was sparked by the controversy over Harriet Miers. I just wish the abortion issue could be shifted to a conversation about what we, as a society and as individuals, can do to make abortions uneeded. I think that's a starting point for a majority of folks to agree -- I don't know anyone in favor of legal aboprtions that is happy about people having abortions, or condoning it as a great birth control method. Maybe eliminating the need/desire for abortions by preventing pregnancy in the first place, either through abstinence, proper use of contraceptives, and by emphasizing a sense of responsibility in the matter among teen boys and men, it would be a starting point.

Something has to shift at some point.

 

Originally Posted By scottie

<<Maybe eliminating the need/desire for abortions by preventing pregnancy in the first place, either through abstinence, proper use of contraceptives, and by emphasizing a sense of responsibility in the matter among teen boys and men, it would be a starting point. >>

Kar2oonman I completely agree with you on this issue. The problem is that a lot of people fear that if they promote using birth control as well as abstinence, that they are condoning a behavior that they feel is morally wrong.

Maybe they'll come up with an implant you receive when you're born that you have to remove when you decide to have children. I'd vote for that.
Technology will improve for birth control. But whose to say the same people who only want to promote abstinence wouldn't make the new technology a political/moral issue as well.

 

Originally Posted By RoadTrip

The ultimate answer??

Gay sex doesn't get anyone pregnant.

That must be what the right wingers want, huh?

 

Originally Posted By jdub

>>The ultimate answer??

Gay sex doesn't get anyone pregnant.<<



Well, just because you've been lucky so far, I wouldn't lose my contacts at the diaper service just YET.

 

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