Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Let's not suggest racism, okay? I've never seen it in DD. >> Did you read the article he posted from National Review -- serious racist undertones there along with anti-Muslim sentiment. He also stated in this thread that President Obama's only academic achievements could be explained as the result of affirmative action and nothing else -- I don't know how else to characterize statements like that other than a racial bias.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 Douglas, sorry I was unable to convince you that the article you posted is very inaccurate. I would suggest that you now do research on your own into those issues and post your findings here. The only thing that will convince me that YOU are correct will be if you find supporting evidence for each of the claims listed. Your sources cannot be opinion or commentary pieces.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 << Let's not suggest racism, okay? I've never seen it in DD. >> <Did you read the article he posted from National Review -- serious racist undertones there along with anti-Muslim sentiment.> That's arguable, but DD didn't write it. <He also stated in this thread that President Obama's only academic achievements could be explained as the result of affirmative action and nothing else -- I don't know how else to characterize statements like that other than a racial bias.> Well, again to be fair to DD, his last paragraph in #15 was an attempt to satirize the previous post (yours, actually). I don't think he was serious about saying Obama only got in due to affirmative action. If he was, you'd be quite right, but I don't think he was. There are enough substantive things to take DD to task for - I've been sparring with him much longer than you, and I haven't seen racism as one of them.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <There are enough substantive things to take DD to task for - I've been sparring with him much longer than you, and I haven't seen racism as one of them.> Don't try to pretend you're better than Sport Goofy. He lies about the views I hold, you lie about the things I've said; either way, it's lying. I find it hilarious that ecdc claims my statements are patently absurd and easily refutable, but instead of doing that, he repeats the same baseless screed he's done in the past. I guess I shouldn't expect anything else from liberals; if you understood facts and could think logically, you wouldn't be liberals.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy Wow, that must have been some lump of coal you got in your stocking this year!
Originally Posted By ecdc >>I find it hilarious that ecdc claims my statements are patently absurd and easily refutable, but instead of doing that, he repeats the same baseless screed he's done in the past.<< I responded to your query about Obama's thesis. You ignored it and continued your Whack-A-Mole game. It's downright boring.
Originally Posted By DAR Doug, you are in no way a racist and Dabob was pointing that out to Sport Goofy. Dabob was actually defending you, at least for that moment you should have put away any animosity you had towards Dabob.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<There are enough substantive things to take DD to task for - I've been sparring with him much longer than you, and I haven't seen racism as one of them.>> <Don't try to pretend you're better than Sport Goofy.> Wow. I stand up for you and say you're NOT racist, because I really believe you're not and was trying to get SG to understand that, and you kick me in the groin. Nice. <He lies about the views I hold,> Actually, I think he misunderstood your post #15. It was a parody, but he didn't understand that. Here's what you said: "Since it appears that President Obama only got into places like Harvard due to affirmative action and doesn't have the intellectual capacity to have any of his own thoughts on policy or direction for this country, it's obvious that someone else is calling all the shots." Now, I understood that as a parody, but that can be easy to miss on a computer screen. Certainly, if one read that paragraph literally, it could look racist. So did SG miss that, or is he lying? I don't claim to know, but you instantly leaped to assuming the worst. <you lie about the things I've said;> No, I don't. In fact, that's why I always quote you verbatim and then answer. Sadly, it doesn't prevent you from calling "lies!" anyway. Or kicking me in the groin. <I find it hilarious that ecdc claims my statements are patently absurd and easily refutable, but instead of doing that, he repeats the same baseless screed he's done in the past. I guess I shouldn't expect anything else from liberals; if you understood facts and could think logically, you wouldn't be liberals.> And there you denigrate all millions of us; apparently, no liberal can understand facts and think logically. The very kind of denigration you say others do. I don't do that to conservatives and in fact sometimes call fellow liberals on it when they do. Yet - there you go again.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Dabob was actually defending you, at least for that moment you should have put away any animosity you had towards Dabob.> In post 114, Dabob repeated a claim that I said something I didn't. When he first claimed it, I told him he was wrong. He's now repeated it two other times, and it's become obvious he doesn't care about the truth. I'll stop my animosity towards Dabob when he stops lying about what I said.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "And yet here you are, again, railing against me and not advancing any intelligent argument. Seriously, is your personal and professional life so inadequate that you need to go on the internet and make up lies and try to bully people? Get help, man." Lame. Just go away.
Originally Posted By ecdc >> I'll stop my animosity towards Dabob when he stops lying about what I said.<< The maturity continues. Like I said in the other thread, this absurd portrayal of WE's as a liberal playground where conservatives get bashed is ridiculous. Laid right out for us in many of Douglas' posts is the kind of stuff many of us have dealt with on these boards for years. And now it's defended as "Well you guys do it too!" My six year old knows better than that.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I'll say it again. All he wanted was to disrupt a thread, get people riled up, and talk about him. He's done it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 It wasn't a lie. You HAVE said in the past that you don't denigrate and distort. Simple fact. And even if you continue to want to claim that you never said that (anyone else remember him saying it, by the way?), it was still still classless to respond the way you did to somebody (even someone you normally disagree with) coming to your defense against someone else calling you racist.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I'll say it again. All he wanted was to disrupt a thread, get people riled up, and talk about him. He's done it.> You know, you're probably right. This topic was supposedly about a potential rift in the right wing between Beck and birthers. Suddenly it's all about DD and sundry other tangential things.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You HAVE said in the past that you don't denigrate and distort.> Post the link, or admit you lie. Liars shouldn't lecture people on class.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 If I can't find one comment of yours among hundreds, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. And you shouldn't throw out the word "lie" so promiscuously. At the very worst I'm remembering something wrong; you certainly have ADMITTED to denigrating and distorting "when others do it first." So ultimately it's semantics. It really isn't right to do it whether other people do it first or not. But I still think you've said in the past that you don't denigrate and distort, full stop. THEN, when called on it, say that okay, you do it, but only when others do it first.
