Originally Posted By Sport Goofy The whole "You lie!" routine got stale with Joe Wilson. Find some new material.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Liars shouldn't lecture people on class.<< Gee, how you coming on that search about how Arlen Specter denigrated people's religion as you asserted a few months back? Or are you ready to admit that was a lie?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "But I still think you've said in the past that you don't denigrate and distort, full stop. THEN, when called on it, say that okay, you do it, but only when others do it first." He's done exactly that for years. You're giving him far too much leeway here.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Gee, how you coming on that search about how Arlen Specter denigrated people's religion as you asserted a few months back?> Why would I need to search anything? I didn't claim he said something he didn't; I merely characterized what he said differently than you did. Why are you defending Dabob's lying?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Why would I need to search anything?<< Because you made a claim about something and are unable to find a shred of evidence to back it up. You said it, I asked you to provide some back-up for such a claim, and you cannot. So, admit you lied or stop calling other people liars. >>I didn't claim he said something he didn't; I merely characterized what he said differently than you did. << Oh, I see. In other words, when you lie, it isn't lying, it's characterizing something "differently." Noted.
Originally Posted By DAR Closing time, something something something, I know who I want to take me home.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy I wonder how many wingnut tactics we can get in one thread? We have the defense of birthers, teabagger exultation of Sarah Palin, and one Joe Wilson-style "You Lie!" I think all that's missing is the old death panel and homophobia routine.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Post the link, or admit you lie.> You're flailing around here to find some way out of the corner you've painted yourself into, but it doesn't work that way. You are not the arbiter of what is a "lie" and what isn't, as others have pointed out.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <You're giving him far too much leeway here.> You know, I actually try to do that. And even defend him when I think he was slammed unfairly. And he still lashes out.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>And even defend him when I think he was slammed unfairly. And he still lashes out.<< Yep. But don't feel too bad. DAR pointed this out to him and was ignored as well.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Because you made a claim about something and are unable to find a shred of evidence to back it up.> That's not true. I did point to things that backed up my claim, as did others. <In other words, when you lie, it isn't lying, it's characterizing something "differently."> No, when it's different, it's different. If you were being honest here, instead of defending a liar, you'd admit that.
Originally Posted By ecdc I see. So there's no such thing as perception, misunderstanding, inaccurate memory, etc., in Douglas' world. There's just liars. Is it any wonder people are unwilling to engage in conversation?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You're flailing around here to find some way out of the corner you've painted yourself into, but it doesn't work that way. You are not the arbiter of what is a "lie" and what isn't, as others have pointed out.> You claimed I said something I didn't. You repeated the claim multiple times after I told you it wasn't true. You just claimed, "I always quote you verbatim". So live up to your words. Post a link to where I said what you claim I said, or admit you lie.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <So there's no such thing as perception, misunderstanding, inaccurate memory, etc., in Douglas' world.> Not after it's repeated multiple times. He insisted I said it, so he should show where. Or admit he's lying.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Is it any wonder people are unwilling to engage in conversation?> Why are you willing to engage in conversation with people who put words in other people's mouth? Is it because you're dishonest too?
Originally Posted By DAR Wait I'm lost. Who's lying about the misunderstanding of the perception of whose inaccurate memory? I feel like I'm in the Matrix.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Not after it's repeated multiple times. He insisted I said it, so he should show where. Or admit he's lying.<< Then you have no concept of memory or lying. You sound like a school child on the verge of tears.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I feel like I'm in the Matrix.<< That's usually what happens when DouglasDubh starts a-spinnin'.