With One Word, Children’s Book Sets Off Uproar

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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    <<< But at the same time I wouldn' want it said that I support a school filled with hypocracy. ;) >>>


    I do enough of that on my own it seems! lol
     
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    Originally Posted By melekalikimaka

    Would you consider reading this "banned" book to see if it is an inappropriate book or do you find the book completely inappropriate because of the word scrotum (when it refers to a dog's injury)?
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>Our librarian would get a fast ticket to the unemployment line if she added "such a book" to the collection.<<

    I hope there are no copies of the Bible in your library. Some of it is very upsetting.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    <<<Even us knuckle-draggers who go to public school have some parenting abilities, believe it or not.>>>

    Yeah, right. Being the product of public school myself, as was my wife, I am not saying these things in an effort to insult THE PEOPLE who send their kids to public school.

    However, I must say that having sent my oldest son to public school for the first 3 years of his education, the differences are so far gone over and above, I would never go back to public.

    Now you ofcourse have to know that the public schools in Georgia are ranked among the worst in the country.



    Taking all that into consideration, all I should have said was something like this:

    In my opinion, my experience in the state of Georgia makes me think that it may be easier for a private or Christian school to exclude books that do not fit in with the kinds of books they want in their collection, being that these schools march to the drumbeat of what the parents collectively want. Public schools are supposed to be that way as well, but in the real world that isn't always the case.

    I apologize for insulting ... Democrats, Public Schools, PhD's, Chiropractors, and "knuckle draggers."
    That is said in jest but I am sincere about the apology.

    I think I went down a tangent and somehow made an argument against public schools, which I way waaaaaay off topic. I'm sorry.


    But I still don't want this book in My kids' libraries.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    <<<Would you consider reading this "banned" book to see if it is an inappropriate book or do you find the book completely inappropriate because of the word scrotum (when it refers to a dog's injury)?>>>


    Ofcourse! I will and with an open mind, and if I think it's no big deal, which most things like this tend to be, I'll read it to my own kids. I'll keep you posted on that.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <<I'd be more apt to say "why banish a really good book from your library on the basis of one word?" >>>


    <Um.... because maybe you don't want your young children to read it? Der.>

    Seriously - would you ban Huckleberry Finn on the basis of the n-word, or its depiction of less than savory behavior?

    Also, I don't think this book is designed for very young children. The impression I got (perhaps inaccurate), is that it was meant for kids of an age where, yes indeed, they know what a scrotum is even if they don't use the clinical word and if they're not using the street slang for it among their friends, it would be unusual indeed.

    And mele's question is a good one. Would you ban it before reading it based on a single word? And "scrotum," of all words, a perfectly accurate word... any kid with a male dog has seen the dog's scrotum.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    <<< I hope there are no copies of the Bible in your library. Some of it is very upsetting. >>>

    There probably aren't. I mean I can't imagine that the vast differences in Protestants who send their kids there...well...I can't see the librarian deciding which translation to stock.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    I'm going to read the book, and I'm going to see what's in our library, and I'm going to see if the Bible is there and if so, which translation. Wow, once you get started trying to find things you disagree with, there's no end to it is there?

    Does this mean you shouldn't disagree with ANYthing?

    It's a tough call isn't it?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <Does this mean you shouldn't disagree with ANYthing? >

    No, of course not, but I'm glad to see you wouldn't support banning a book because of one word - apparently others out there aren't so discerning.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    Ode To The Scrotum Of A Toad

    by Maud'Dib

    Small and green, below the spleen
    There is a little sack--
    Although it's used and not abused
    It's smaller than a tack.

    On top of it, there is a rod
    No bigger than a pin--
    But explanation of it's use
    Is considered quite the sin.

    As our green friend hops around,
    From lily pad to bay--
    His little warty bag goes
    'round and 'round and even sway.

    It bounces to and fro,
    As he frolics in the sun--
    And wherever he does jump
    You'll see his scrotum run.

    The toad, you see, is not a tree,
    His genitals are there--
    Although to see, you may think "gee
    They're smaller than a hair."

    Source: <a href="http://www.vex.net/~smarry/yip/toad.html" target="_blank">http://www.vex.net/~smarry/yip
    /toad.html</a>

    Now I suppose someone is going to try to tell me that is not great literature!!

    ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By melekalikimaka

    <<Wow, once you get started trying to find things you disagree with, there's no end to it is there? >>

    LOL! :)
     
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    Originally Posted By onlyme

    Lunch time, here. Hope everyone's day is going great.

    Well, I came here to find out if there were any more 'clever' one-liners, but all I see is debate...oh well.
    :)
     
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    Originally Posted By alexbook

    >>What age group is the book written for anyhoo?<<

    4th grade and up.
     
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    Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy

    <I put many of them almost down with chiropractors.>

    I hope no Georgian chiropractor reads this board if your back ever goes out. ;-)



    <Well, I came here to find out if there were any more 'clever' one-liners, but all I see is debate...oh well.
    :) >

    I think the idea of book-banning is "de bait" in 'dis here thread. ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    Okay I'd just like to report back, I have no problem with the book, however I do think it's a stunt by the authoer to grab publicity by the scrotum.
     
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    Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy

    LOL!

    And boy, did she ever!
     
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    Originally Posted By dsnykid

    "This logic only applies if you agree to let other people judge what is best for YOUR kids.

    I don't do that, therefore, I don't want it on the elementary school shelves."

    DVC Dad, please don't take this as an attack, because I love reading your posts and always find them interesting, BUT.... By saying you do not want this book on your child's library shelf, are you not judging what other parent's children are allowed to read, in that you would be limiting their access to the book? Or did I tottaly misunderstand? And if i did.. please accept my apologies.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    Yeah you're right. Like I said in post 74, the book is fine, it's not a huge deal. I see absolutely no reason for the scrotum to be in the book. I think it's a bit of spice by the author. I mean what if the author had the dog's penis in there? Well that would be a little TOO risque, but the scrotum is prefect for just the right mix to get a lotta publicity.

    I did check, and our librarian is not going to add this book to our collection. SO my opinion doesn't come into play anyway.

    Thanks for being so nice and gracious about your post dsnykid. I do change my mind quite a bit if the argument on the "other side" makes complete sense to me.
     
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    Originally Posted By dsnykid

    No problem DVC Dad... I may have to go and get this book though and read it for myself... Knowing my 5th and 6th graders, they would probably get a huge kick out of hearing that word.... granted these are my students who listen to Green Day and Eminem all day long
     
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    Originally Posted By melekalikimaka

    Never underestimate the power of dick and fart jokes.
     

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