Originally Posted By Labuda Not get get knee-deep in muck, but at least one news report at the time of the 4-year-old's death stated that the little boy was a bit sickly. I don't know if that was sensationalism or not, but there it is.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Neither was Disney to be rational. It's each person's responsibility to take care of their health. <<I would tell that to the parent's face as I take care of my kids and make sure they are safe. If you remember my daughter almost died last month, so I don't need to hear about other parents who screwed up and don't want to take responsiblity! FTR-I would never tell that to their face as I wouldn't tell a 300 pound person that they should stop killing themselves as I am sensitive but honest.>> You are assuming the parents of the 4-year-old somehow didn't take care of their child. As for taking responsibilty, I haven't seen anyone say that they are shrugging any responsibilty for knowing their own health condition. It's "common" to see otherwise healthy-looking people to die from unknown medical conitions... for instance, I think everyone has seen or read about an athlete who collapsed and died. I am just saying there is no blame to lay... it's merely a tragedy.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m <<Sherry Todd--Rational thinking is very rare.>> How about lay off of the insults joe. i don't insult you for your opinion. If I feel M:S is dangerous and don't want to ride, that is my right.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m <<You are assuming the parents of the 4-year-old somehow didn't take care of their child. >> Well, don't you know it's dangerous to let your four year old ride a Disney attraction?
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <The "G" forces do effect internal organs. I know I find myself having difficulty breathing during initial takeoff.> That's all I need to read. I'll never ride 'Mission:Space' 'taint worth it to me.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<don't you know it's dangerous to let your four year old ride a Disney attraction?>> I am not a parent. Regardless, I don't believe that a 4- year-old is too young. I know many people think that a child's body hasn't developed enough at that point, but I don't happen to hold that same belief. Height requirement aside, I wouldn't take an infant on an attraction like M:S, but I wouldn't hesitate to take a healthy 4-year-old.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m ^^I was being sarcastic. And the sarcasm wasn't aimed at you, but at capecodjoe.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd Before this goes in the direction these things usually go in, I would just like to say, that it is simply my opinion that MS is safe. Everyone has their own thought processes on this one and everyone is free to make their own decisions in my opinion. We don't know yet what caused the death, so before any feelings get hurt, mine included , I'm bowing out of this discussion till there are more facts. **Takes a deep cleansing breath and moves on**
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden <<I would suggest people focus on their lifestyles, i.e. diets and exercising rather than this unproductive conversation.>> Good idea. Let's all go back to the topics that truly make a difference in this world, like: "UGH! 2 more supid pixar rides for WDW" "TOT: Which shaft is the best?" "Are you ready for the Spring Bunny?" "BUSH HAS GOT TO GO!!!!!" "Katie jumps ship to CBS" "Air Supply (remember them?)" "I had my first Dole Whip!" If we eliminated every unproductive discussion this site as well as the internet itself might implode.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m <<Before this goes in the direction these things usually go in, I would just like to say, that it is simply my opinion that MS is safe. Everyone has their own thought processes on this one and everyone is free to make their own decisions in my opinion. We don't know yet what caused the death, so before any feelings get hurt, mine included , I'm bowing out of this discussion till there are more facts.>> I understand where you are coming from. And I understand that anyone can be hurt at anytime, anywhere. But I choose not to ride M:S. I don't think it's worth the risk. And that's the whole point. Riding an attraction at WDW shouldn't have the kind of risks that M:S has.
Originally Posted By AZDLDad <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/us/13cnd-disney.html?_r=1&oref=slogin" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04 /13/us/13cnd-disney.html?_r=1&oref=slogin</a> "The Sentinel said a review of ambulance records showed that of 8.6 million people who took the ride before the death of the boy in June, 143 sought medical attention."
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m ^^And what is your opinion? That they have a good record because only 143 were injured out of millions (and that's probably a lot less than are injured/killed in auto accidents?), or that that is a high number of injuries for an attraction that is only a few years old.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 I do understand everyone's concern about MS and rightly so but don't you think we should wait to see what the autopsy report states before jumping to conclusions.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m ^^I'm not really jumping to conclusions. I've never been on the ride. And I've read many posts in this section about people being sent to the hospital because they became ill after experiencing M:S. Therefore, when something like this happens, it merely cements my opinion that I don't want to ride M:S. But it really does make me wonder if the ride is indeed too extreme.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 I don't want to ride MS either. It is way to intense for me. My brother in law rode it and he said it is very intense. Everyone has a right to their own opinion but for some people to knock someone else's opinion is not right. The fact is that two people have died whether it's an underlying health condition or the ride. May they rest in peace.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 t1lersm0m - I totally agree with you. It does put these doubts in your head. There are some on here who are jumping to conclusion about the death of these two people and I was just merely stating that we should wait to see what the report entails.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m ^^Yeah, and I understand. I'm wondering how concerned people will be if a third person dies. Maybe a third person never will die. But with how many injuries there have been, and now two deaths, one has to wonder. I just know, when I go to WDW, I don't want to wonder "Should I be riding this ride? Is it safe?" And I understand about waiting to determine the cause of death. But, it's one of those things that makes you go Hmmmmm.....(insert song track).
Originally Posted By AZDLDad t1- I was too hasty in making a post like that. The numbers are ambiguous because there really are no uniform state or federal procedures for documenting all theme park accidents. You have the right to heed the warnings and not ride, or, take the ride and find out too late that you have a unknown medical condition. Maybe a doctor's release that you have been "pre-tripped" and cleared for themepark activity is next? I became ill on the WDW Space Mountain several years ago in my thirties. I suffer from migraines, and the ride triggered an episode with nausea. I still ride everything at DL and plan to ride MS at least once in June. I do carry meds for a migraine attack now. If, I have eaten one too many Big Macs and the ol' ticker shuts down and the good Lord needs me upstairs, then so be it! If, I knowingly have a pre-existing condition that was life-threatening, then NO I do not ride. But, I do not NOT sleep, drive, fly, run, eat, drink, experience life because people die or get hurt doing all those activities. Remember the Reason For The Season! Good Friday and Easter!
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys >I just know, when I go to WDW, I don't want to wonder "Should I be riding this ride? Is it safe?"< The ride has proven to be safe. What people have to evaluate is whether or not the effects of the ride will be detrimental to their health. I have experienced MS 3 times,with the last two making me feel queasy the rest of the day. I will not go on again, not because I think the ride is unsafe, but because it ruins the rest of my day.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 <<I have experienced MS 3 times,with the last two making me feel queasy the rest of the day>> See that's the #1 reason why I don't go on those types of rides is because I want to enjoy my day. I sometimes live vicariously through others. <<I just know, when I go to WDW, I don't want to wonder "Should I be riding this ride? Is it safe?">> Absolutely, I am right with you on this one. Certain rides scare me even if there weren't any casualties or accidents relating to that ride.
