Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I don't see where you get morally reprehensible from from being a good and moral person and getting into heaven going hand in hand, but that's just me, I guess.
Originally Posted By X-san You misunderstood me. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm saying that "the important thing is getting into heaven" is totally missing the point. AND, that sometimes peoples' ideas about how you get into heaven are far from good and moral. But that's just me, I guess.
Originally Posted By teddibubbles to me.. you will note i said to me... the kingdom of heaven. belongs to God. we as mortals have inherited this thing called sin.. we have all sinned!.. we can not work our way into heaven!.. as we are mortal.. and God is spirit! the only way to God.. is to be Born again. into the spirit. God was much been concerned with the inner mans state.. outward works can still cloak a inner sin. I don't know how other religions get by this fact.. but I myself am so thank full for the savior I have in me.. as he paid the price for me.. covering all my sins. as long as I repent and except him as my lord..and remain > IN HIM< I'm very sad when I look at other roads that people try. as I cant see how they could even try to be pure inside before God.. as I have learned all of my best works are as filthy rags before God.. so I know.. even my best intentions still fall short! and we are mortal. so only seeking God by his spirit. can we come to know him.. and the God I Know. is a Good of Love! I thank Jesus for him Loving and paying for me!
Originally Posted By teddibubbles I know this is kind of off topic.. but I feel like just saying this.. You! yes you the reader! what if I said. Hey I Love You! hey I have done a lot of great things in my life! I worked very hard.. I made sacrifices! My Whole life! I learned all kinds of stuff about your life! so I'm worthy! or I killed in YOUR NAME! so now you owe me! now Can I live with you for the rest of your life?? well how about it? can I move in with you???????????? THINK ABOUT IT! come on !! you KNOW you wont let me move in with you! so why should God? you must adopt the person somehow.. and care for them.. love them.. >> KNOW THEM DEEPLY! That is the whole point of Heaven. its God s Home! RELATIONSHIP! that is what you must have with him.. and under HIS Laws and Rules!
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn {According to some, killing innocent people in a religious war is the ticket to heaven.] Those "some" are simply wrong. God does in fact require us to be good (sinless) to enter Heaven. Of course, by our nature, we are sinful, but we should make every attempt at being sinless, and plead forgiveness when we admit our sins. By the way, your previous comments about "why are their poor and destitute people on the Earth if there is a loving and caring god?" ... the existence of this situation is a reflection on the lack of action by people who like to call themselves Christian, but don't live like a Christian (including myself). There should be thousands of us in Africa improving the lives of the destitute. God works through us, unless we chose to sin. Too many "Christian" are constantly sinning - hence the world becomes more bleak. It is indeed sad. But it doesn't remove the existence or influence of God.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn Strangly enough, it was a woman who jumped up in my Sunday School class last Sunday and asked "Don't you all think that Obama and Oprah are the Anti-Christ??" We considered this to be a zinger. I don't think anybody agreed that Obama or Oprah are the Anti-Christ... or Clinton, or Bush, or Reagan, or Carter, or Truman...
