Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>But when they get it wrong (DCA, anyone?), it doesn't.<< Actually, I think they did get the retail mostly right with DCA when it first opened. There were more themed choices, and Rushin' Rover Outfitters and Fly 'n Buy especially were standouts. I loved that the merchandise in Fly 'n Buy was in machine shop parts racks, and was specific to aviation/Condor Flats. (Of course, most of the merchandise eventually made its way into Disney Character Warehouses soon thereafter, so what do I know?)
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Actually, I think they did get the retail mostly right with DCA...<< You bet they did. If half as much time, care, and budget had been given to the attractions as was lavished on retail, DCA 1.0 probably would have been the homerun everyone in Disneyland management at the time was so confidently predicting.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Perhaps it's the success of the retail that has afforded the company the resources to expand so lavishly.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I'm going to say that what I see, I like. Ok, I do miss the lighting fixtures, that's a shame. However, looking at old & new, I have to agree that the previous incarnation looked like 1980's Victorian. It looked kind of...off. So, this remodel makes things look quite a bit more crisp and open. Sure, the colors are not historically accurate, but then, Main Street is supposed to be a fantasized version of a turn-of-the-century main street. For me, it's a positive makeover...except for the missing light fixtures... Oh, and the new GAP logo??? Awful! Way to make an already boring brand even more boring...
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I think, based on the photos anyway, the new version retains the flavor of the era. It certainly does not look like The Gap in any way.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Perhaps it's the success of the retail that has afforded the company the resources to expand so lavishly.<< The word "success" and "California Adventure" are mutually exclusive. The retail plan for DCA 1.0 was lavish, but the result was a wash of red ink that still resonates. They ended up hauling DCA merch to Florida and burying it (literally) in landfill.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>They ended up hauling DCA merch to Florida and burying it (literally) in landfill.<< 20,000 years from now, archaeologists will dig up an Orange Stinger toy and be convinced that there once was a religion that worshipped citrus. Another layer down, an Anita Bryant album will convince them they're correct.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The retail plan for DCA 1.0 was lavish, but the result was a wash of red ink that still resonates." I guess what I referring to is the "success" of DLR's retail operations over all, not just DCA's stores way back in 2001. I get annoyed with all the junk that Disneyland peddles to guests, but then I remind myself that all the overpriced garbage that people tote out of there is what pays for stuff like WOC and the new DCA entrance.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "I get annoyed with all the junk that Disneyland peddles to guests, but then I remind myself that all the overpriced garbage that people tote out of there is what pays for stuff like WOC and the new DCA entrance." Well thank you hans for agreeing that i am a big help!
Originally Posted By tashajilek I like to run into Disneyland with money in my fists screaming "buy buy buy"
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <The word "success" and "California Adventure" are mutually exclusive.> DCA had a number of successes, a number of failures and a number of in-betweens. Both macro and micro.
Originally Posted By jmuboy From the pictures I have seen, the new Disney Clothiers looses points for only 2 things. 1 - same old crap as all the other stores. 2 - the pretty ceiling lights are gone. All in all though, the store is still nice and has the necessary Victorian touches to carry the theme. Trust me, don't complain too much about DL's Main St. It's like the Smithsonian of Victorian art compared to the Wal-Mart version WDW has now. I sware that WDW's Main Street is really one of those Pressler era disasters that will take a lot of work to "fix"
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance These pictures from the remodeled store look a lot different than the ones we saw posted over there at that other site. These seam to keep a lot more in the theme. <a href="http://disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_update.php?page_id=56&update_dir=2010_10_08" target="_blank">http://disneygeek.com/updates/...10_10_08</a> <a href="http://disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_update.php?page_id=57&update_dir=2010_10_08" target="_blank">http://disneygeek.com/updates/...10_10_08</a> <a href="http://disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_update.php?page_id=58&update_dir=2010_10_08" target="_blank">http://disneygeek.com/updates/...10_10_08</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Like I said before, it looks OK to me. Despite the Walmart-esque stuff they're selling it's actually merchandised a lot better than the previous store .
Originally Posted By DlandDug I wondered if the original shots we saw represented the final interiors. Looks like they hadn't finished all the set dressing. I still want some period light fixtures up in that ceiling. But otherwise, this looks just fine to me.
Originally Posted By DlandDug And for those longing for a return to the "authentic" Main Street interiors of the 1950s and 60s, feast your eyes: Wonderland Music: <a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_f_vuJiN9ZO8/TGoX2S5l_NI/AAAAAAAAB1s/Qnbe8K2ImiY/s1600/70sinterior.jpg" target="_blank">http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_f_vu...rior.jpg</a> Candle Shop: <a href="http://davelandweb.com/mainstreet/images/westside/1960s126Color_CandleShop.jpg" target="_blank">http://davelandweb.com/mainstr...Shop.jpg</a> Hollywood Maxwell ("The Wizard of Bras"): <a href="http://www.yesterland.com/images-mainstreet/wizard_newspaper.gif" target="_blank">http://www.yesterland.com/imag...aper.gif</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt The irony is that the relatively low key interiors from Main Street's earlier years are probably more accurate than the more theatrical looking interiors that the shops have now.
