Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Then maybe we should agree that accuracy isn't perhaps the best policy you should follow when trying to develop and design a place that people are going to want to come back and see again and again.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I think there may be some misunderstand regarding my posts. I'm not saying that things at Disneyland should be accurate to that last nail, what I'm saying is that the context and historical references in the "story" should be accurate. In other words, I don't want to see an attraction based on a modern English stuffed toy animal in a section of the park that's designed to be the backwoods American frontier.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I thought they changed the whole American Frontier thing when they changed the name to Critter Country?
Originally Posted By DlandDug If we wanted to pursue this line of reasoning, we should go back to Bear Country. Which means that new kiddy dark ride has no business being there. Unless, of course, you consider that Winnie the Pooh is a... bear. Oh bother.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I thought they changed the whole American Frontier thing when they changed the name to Critter Country?" Did they? Funny then that the canoes are still there and the Mark Twain and Columbia still pass through. See, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I refer to the integrity of "story". What they have in Critter Country now is kind of a mess story-wise.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Hans, when you go to DL do you walk around wincing at everything?
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Mark Twain and Columbia are officially part of Frontierland. Only the explorer canoes are included in Critter Country.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I don't know, doesn't Pooh just feel to fit in because of the whole wooded feel to the place? I think that's my thing, if something just feels right in a certain place and looks right, I feel like it's a good fit. Once you start going into back stories of lands and trying to make everything fit into the entirely made up backstory, that's when things get too deep for me. I mean backstory is what someone made up anyway, it's not like it's true or acual or anything.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I don't know, doesn't Pooh just feel to fit in because of the whole wooded feel to the place?" Not to me it doesn't. Maybe it's because I remember what it was before. Maybe if they took the same direction as Carsland or Toontown and immersed guests in Pooh's world it wouldn't be so bad. The setting (Davy Crockett Canoes, the riverboat and Columbia passing through, and characters from Song of The South along side Winnie the Pooh. It just doesn't fit. "I mean backstory is what someone made up anyway, it's not like it's true or acual or anything." This isn't necessarily just about backstory. I'm talking about context. In another thread Kar2oonMan mentioned what a hodge-podge Tomorrowland has become because of the reckless way it's been developed in recent years. Critter Country is kind of same chaotic mess thematically.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Wouldn't Fantasyland become the same hodgepodge of stuff thrown in there if you had Pooh in there? If you're too strict about where things go, you'll be limiting yourself way too much. And there won't be a place for anything.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan When I was a kid, I played with Tonka Trucks and Hot Wheels, but not at the same time. They existed in different worlds from each other. It was my inner sense of scale and proportion at work. A Bug's Land works. You enter through a giant cereal box and you are now the size of a bug, in their world. The rides are "constructed" of found objects. Benches made from popsicle sticks. It all makes sense, feels right. Now, if they were to suddenly add a ride featuring the bugs from "James and The Giant Peach" -- the whole thing would get screwed up and feel wrong. Why should that be? They're all bugs. But somehow, they exist in different worlds stylistically, proportionately. That's the sort of thing that "bugs" obsessive purists like me.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Wouldn't Fantasyland become the same hodgepodge of stuff thrown in there if you had Pooh in there? << Not if done carefully. In fact, it would fit better since Pooh is actually an English tale (even though the Disney version Americanized him more and more through the years). Pooh is closer related to Alice in Wonderland than Davy Crockett.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I don't know. To me personally, seeing Pooh in Fastasyland would be much more out of place than seeing him in the wooded Critter Country. But we're just arguing opinion here. There is no right or wrong answer.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "But we're just arguing opinion here. True dat. "There is no right or wrong answer." It's only wrong if you disagree with me.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "When I was a kid, I played with Tonka Trucks and Hot Wheels, but not at the same time. They existed in different worlds from each other. It was my inner sense of scale and proportion at work." Exactly. There was a related statement recently from a Disney spokesperson regarding the removal of Maliboomer. From what I recall the person said that the company is removing the drop tower because it 'no longer fits' the new Victorian theme.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I'm going to have to disrespectfully disagree with you on that.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance 118 for this comment: "It's only wrong if you disagree with me."
