Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Everything I've heard until this thread was that the show would be WWoC. Since it will be themed to all things Disney (classic stuff, live action, animation, newer stuff both Disney and Pixar etc ...) to me, that is the perfect name. And, no, I-57 at least with this show we won't have to deal with princesses (except in small doses) or moppets singing about Dreams, Wishes and Magic. Thankfully! I do wonder what it means for the Fantasmic redo though. Hopefully, it adds incentive. If you have two new amazing crowd-pleasing shows at night, you won't have DCA as a ghosttown and the overcrowding problems that plague DL so much.
Originally Posted By k_peek_2000 The source is Marcie, from Mouseinfo. A VERY reliable source. It was in response to one of my threads.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>See, Darkbeer CAN be positive about the park. << Anyone can be positive when there's something positive to discuss about this park! ~ >>The source is Marcie, from Mouseinfo. A VERY reliable source..<< aaagh-cough-cough-cghghchchchchchgggh-cough Someone get me some water! :~
Originally Posted By oc_dean I got to say though ... I am just SALIVATING at the thought of this show! A water show to rival the one at the Bellagio Hotel??? With some references to Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color tv series from the 60s ????? Awwwwwe! Finally .. I can start feeling good about an otherwise crappy park! For the record :~ Since Jan 2005: DL - at least a dozen times on my yearly PAP DCA - One! (LP July '05 meet & greet)
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Marcie claimed that the new attraction at DCA was going to be called "Toy Story Midway Mania", even after the first press release said "Toy Story Mania!". So I guess some folks at TDA want the word Wonderful dropped. While a possibility, I wouldn't place it in the "for sure" catagory just yet... And as for the past history of Marcie.... <a href="http://www.micechat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16514" target="_blank">http://www.micechat.com/forums /showthread.php?t=16514</a>
Originally Posted By bean "Inspector 57 Thu 8/23/2007 10:53p <<It is supposed to be amazing.>> And what's your source? ResortGuru has made two posts on LP. On this one, he cites an unnamed poster on an unnamed website." that information is very accurate. also if things stay on schedule the bay might start getting its water removed very soon. The idea is to fill it back up in time for Toy tsory Mania to open. The name for the show at the moment is "Disney's World of Color"
Originally Posted By bean As for the Toys tory attraction, the name was pushed by WDW but there are still several in TDA and WDI that are pushing to get the Midway back on the name for the DCA version. So MArcie is not wrong, the names for attractions and shows change constantly and yes eventhough it has been announced there is still a year before it opens. Anything could happen.
Originally Posted By bean just read the link paced in post 25. Actually Marcie was not wrong. At the time that Mr. Lutz mentioned the rumor of the theater in the front court, it was just an idea being thrown around but nothing concrete. at the end of the session the idea was thrown out and was not happening. Even now there is still some debate whether the golden dreams movie should be moved and saved or just scrapped. The DCA plans have changed in the last couple years so much that even what Mr. Lutz and others have said are no longer valid. But if we want to start talkig about people past records then why not talk about Annual passholder renewal office taking over DCA's main toy store in the suncourt -- lets see who said that rumor. How about calpasable chimneys for the pirates lair takeover -- let's see who said that should i keep going, i could come up with "so called" changes coming to both parks that everyone from Lutz to Jim have stated as if they were facts. So please lets not turn this into a Mr. Lutz is right and Marcie is wrong thread or vice versa
Originally Posted By dlpostcardguy I must say that this show sounds 'wonderful'!!! I can't wait to see it. DCA really needs this shot in the arm. I had always wished they made the Electrical Parade more speicfic to DCA or at least had some new floats. Same with the holiday season - why they never did the holiday version of the EP is beyond me. Finally a nightime show at DCA to (hopefully) rival some of the offerings at DL. Hope they re-do the infrastructure around the lagoon to offer better and more viewing.
Originally Posted By TP2000 bean, I think the differences in tone/style between Marcie and Al come from the wording and language they use. Al used words like "proposed", "planned" and "concept" when describing the plans to move the AP office to the toy store in DCA, or the plans to have collapsible chimneys for the Pirate's Lair cannon effect. Al used accurate and correct language in describing "concepts" and "proposals" that were being "considered" at the time he mentioned them. Al has never once said "I guarantee you that WDI will install collapsible chimneys in New Orleans Square. And my source promised me it would happen." Al's comments use language that clearly spells out what he means, and what is being proposed at the current time. Of course, in this day and age when people don't have the language capabilities required to grasp anything more than an 8 second sound bite regarding Paris Hilton's underwear, then what can Al do for people who don't know what a word like "proposal" means. Marcie, on the other hand, uses words like "laughable" and "ridiculous" and "plain got it wrong". Those are very definitive, distinct words to use on projects that even Marcie admits are "very fluid". If you have a 3rd grade education and can't grasp the idea of what a "proposal" or "concept" is, the information Al provides could be confusing or seem inaccurate when looking back at it after plans changed 2 or 3 years later. But if you can actually read the entire text and understand the thesis and ideas Al is presenting, then his information on plans and rumors are fascinating and unprecedented in the Disney Internet world.
Originally Posted By k_peek_2000 "Marcie claimed that the new attraction at DCA was going to be called "Toy Story Midway Mania", even after the first press release said "Toy Story Mania!"." Darkbeer, The name of the ride WAS going to be Toy Story Midway Mania. Until MGM ruined it for us Californians by wanting the ride also, and it wouldn't fit their tmeme. Lutz was the one who said Disney MGM Studios new official name was going to be Disney-Pixar Studios.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer ^And when was the new name for MGM decided, one week before it was announced. And John Lassiter decided to take one for the "team", as he was pushing for the Pixar name. And I never saw where Al said it the name change was official, just the fact it was being considered. But once again, Al has a lot of sources from different locations, including TDA, WDI and even corporate in Burbank. Marcie, on the other hand, is clearly an TDA employee and spins things to make things loook good for TDA and Disney, and has admitted to making up numbers. Marcie is an interesting read, but I take her info as gospel as much as stuff Jim Hill writes, they both contain a lot of spin. And yes, some of Al's info comes from sources that want to spin something in a certain direction, at least he doesn't claim he works for Disney and lies and mis-states numbers.
Originally Posted By k_peek_2000 Mr. Lightbeer,(Toy Story Refrance, couldn't resist), we should agree that Marcie, Michael, Al, are never 100% accurate. Cuz well, it's true. Nor should we sway to one side weather it be the mouseinfo gang or Al Lutz. All sources should be taken to consideration and us as fans should be thankful that they give up information and never bash anybody.
Originally Posted By Pirate Mickey DCA needs to be more like Disneyland in an updated way. They have to get rid of the Knott's Magic California Adventure Mountain idea.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer >>Mr. Lightbeer,(Toy Story Refrance, couldn't resist), we should agree that Marcie, Michael, Al, are never 100% accurate. Cuz well, it's true. Nor should we sway to one side weather it be the mouseinfo gang or Al Lutz. All sources should be taken to consideration and us as fans should be thankful that they give up information and never bash anybody.<< BUT.. First someone starts this thread and does not state where the info comes from, just a generic "I was reading this post on another board and thought I would pass along what she wrote. Her information is usually very acurate." Them k peek states "The source is Marcie, from Mouseinfo. A VERY reliable source.", and that brought the comments about her past record, as many folks don't think she is very reliable.... And then this comment gets me laughing... "never bash anybody".... But it is Marcie's number one rule, bash Al Lutz and others on the internet, and Michael at MI is also known for doing it, just not as much as Marcie does.... I don't see the other websites and/or insiders doing it. And if they think it is OK to bash others, then IMHO it is just as fair to bash them. But I do have to admit, they have cut back on the bashing lately, and that is a GOOD thing. But it is also good to see places like the Disney Blog and Blue Sky Disney getting higher hits lately. As I said earlier, the final name for the show has not been officially announced, and they are still using the "Wonderful World of Color" historic TV footage as the opening of the show, so there is still a good possibility of it being named WWOC. On the other hand, it is clear that the name of TSM, is "Toy Story Mania!", heck they just put up a bunch more signs with that name on it on the refurb walls in the last few days.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer By the way, here is Marcie's post from February 15th, 2007.... >> >Originally Posted by ismael flores The Toy Story Mania is now the official name.< That is not correct. When the sign officially goes up on the attraction in DCA it will say Toy Story Midway Mania.<< But all the signs on the refurb walls, and EVERY official statement from the Disneyland Resort, both in Press Releases and on it's website... >> due to construction for Toy Story Mania! — a brand new attraction scheduled to open in 2008.<< Have all stated Toy Story Mania!, the name has never been changed or revised "officially". Yes, Toy Story Midway Mania was the working title, and I did get some photos of a sign that stated that, but that sign was from a construction company, NOT an official Disney source. And there have been no official annoumcement about the lagoon show (though it is hard to hide the fact they are testing effects, with all the stuff placed in the lagoon....) So we shall see what the REAL name will be when Disney decides it is time to make the announcement.
Originally Posted By k_peek_2000 "Yes, Toy Story Midway Mania was the working title, and I did get some photos of a sign that stated that, but that sign was from a construction company, NOT an official Disney source." Get that construction company in charge of WDI!
Originally Posted By jonvn Al's comments have long been laughable and ridiculous. He is wrong so often, the only thing that keeps people sucking up to him is misplaced blind loyalty.
Originally Posted By 8 ilovemickey 8 I was just wondering what the projected opening date is for World of Color or Wonderful World of Color?? I agree that an awesome night show could do wonders for both DCA and DL.
