Originally Posted By Evening Star I don't think Snow White presence and a good ride are mutually exclusive...
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Snow White is the reason for Fantasyland's existence." She'll be appearing in the flesh posing for photos in the meet & greet area. Isn't that better than a mannequin that you see for 2 seconds in a ride? "Guess I'm the only one who doesn't give a crap what character is in a ride as long as it's good...?" No, you are not alone.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I don't think Snow White presence and a good ride are mutually exclusive...>> Never said they were. But I also don't think it's "awful" or a "ghastly mistake" to quote posters in this thread that she's not in it. If it's a good ride it doesn't matter.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Some final thoughts. I have always been disappointed that Disney has not built outside the railroad tracks in Fantasyland. Disney has the space to add so much more to their parks for a "true" expansion.>> <<You'll never see them expand back that way, and for good reason. That area is the fireworks fallout zone. It would have to close every night during fireworks. There's a ton of backstage buildings right behind Fantasyland. If they're gonna go outside the berm, it would be in a different area like Adventureland or Frontierland.>> But none of that is needed. Look at how much dead space there is at the MK, right now. There are so many ways of adding things without going outside the berm.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I think more rides and attractions would be good for the MK. Sometimes less is just less.
Originally Posted By Evening Star >>She'll be appearing in the flesh posing for photos in the meet & greet area. Isn't that better than a mannequin that you see for 2 seconds in a ride?<< Not really, no. Disneyland manages both equally well. It doesn't need to be an either/or.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>She'll be appearing in the flesh posing for photos in the meet & greet area. Isn't that better than a mannequin that you see for 2 seconds in a ride?<< "Not really, no. Disneyland manages both equally well." And Disneyland doesn't have a Seven Dwarfs mine coaster either. See how that works? It's a trade off.... in the end everybody gets what they want/need but not exactly in the shape or form they demand. In this case little boys and little girls have something that will appeal to them, which is a rarity at the Magic Kingdom and Disneyland these days.
Originally Posted By Evening Star I'm sorry, I still don't see/understand why a single painting/statue/animatronic will render this ride completely unfun for families and children. I do not wish to keep this ride from being built. I welcome it and look forward to riding it. I only wish her to be represented somewhere within it.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Nothing wrong with wanting it. However, they've decided against placing her in the new attraction for one reason or another and have dedicated a spot for a live incarnation in another location.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I'm sorry, I still don't see/understand why a single painting/statue/animatronic will render this ride completely unfun for families and children.>> No one is saying that, though...We're just saying it isn't inexcusable that she's not in there...
Originally Posted By Evening Star Hrm, well, I did not initially mention the quality of the ride, its much deserved anticipation, or the certainty of its enjoyment value for families. Just my dismay and disappointment that she won't be in it.
Originally Posted By dshyates Ok, just let me throw a few thoughts out. We know the princesses are going into the former SWSA. But which princesses? And that SW won't be in the attraction? But does anyone know what is going into that cute little cottage on the hill in the middle of the mine coaster? Looks like a great place for a proper Snow White m&g to me.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: I feel the same way you do, Evening Star, duckling. I want Snow White represented inside that Dwarf coaster, too! After all, if it weren't for Snow White, those seven little men wouldn't have ever been heard of!! Anyway, to answer the question about which princesses will be meeting and greeting in the upcoming Princess meet and greet area, we were told that Snow White would be there along with Cinderella, Princess Aurora, Rapunzel and Tiana. (Belle and Ariel will be doing their meetings and greetings over in their new attraction/restaurant areas.)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Look at how much dead space there is at the MK, right now.<<< What do you mean, "Dead Space"...? I don't want them building in delicate themed areas, that serve as transitions, you know. We need those too, for the thematics and beauty of the park. Now, dead facilities? Yes, build away.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Seeing that SW didn't make a singe appearance in her original ride, this makes a lot of sense. If ANY character is needed, it's the Witch/Queen. And the mirror.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 I wonder what guests are going to say when all they discover that's in it is.....a restaurant.....
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: But EPCOT Explorer, duckling, don't you realize it's like taking a giant step backwards to not have Snow White inside an attraction that's about her life story? I mean, even the Imagineers--after many years--reaized they'd made a mistake by not having Snow White inside the dark ride. That's why they corrected the situation--finally--after many years of not realizing that's what guests expected. Now it sounds like they're about to make the same mistake again! They haven't learned a thing!
Originally Posted By brotherdave I'm certainly not upset with them adding a new restaurant. If all indications are what they seem to be, this will be one highly themed, very popular place. But, can't they utilize locations that have been under-used or even closed instead of building new? Adventureland Veranda comes to mind. So does the Tomorrowland Noodle Station (or whatever they call it now). I'm stumped by how WDW operates anymore. I'm all for the new stuff, but let's fix up what's there. And there's no need to remove viable rides and attractions (like Snow White) when there are so many other under-utilized buildings and areas in the parks. Closed facilities not only make very little sense, but they give guests a bad impression of the parks, too. It just amazes me how many closed attractions or facilities that they have at all their parks now.