Originally Posted By peeaanuut <<For people who are involved in creative endeavors, or ANY career where they have passion about what they do, it's more than a job. And "good enough" never is. That leads people to pace the floors.>> So your saying that I am bad at my job because I do not pace the floors at night? Interesting. And I have not belittled anyone more than they have belittled me. Tit for tat.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>So your saying that I am bad at my job because I do not pace the floors at night?<< No. Try reading what is actually written rather than concerning yourself with interpreting it some imagined way. How would I know how you are at your job? I was merely saying that it's not unheard of for people to carry over concerns about work when they are passionate about what they do, long after office hours. That's not such a new notion.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut Ok. Well Ill take my uneducated, unpassionate self off the boards than. Since Im being asked to leave I will be civil and just walk away. Good luck with your strike, I hope you get everything you ever wished for.
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Originally Posted By Rontheman I have one other question: Why is somebody who is against (or at least belittling of) entertainment and the arts hanging out on Disney board?
Originally Posted By DAR Because most Disney films and tv shows especially in Walt's day were made from magic.
Originally Posted By Rontheman Ask the animators whos striked the studio back in the 40's about that.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut <<I have one other question: Why is somebody who is against (or at least belittling of) entertainment and the arts hanging out on Disney board?>> See, I try to walk away and Im brought back in. I am on a disney board because I have been here longer than my Disney interest has been. I have no interest in Disney anymore but i still have some people I have interest in keeping contact with. I do not go into the Disney sections of this board anymore. Just no interest.
Originally Posted By Rontheman Um... okay. I guess that makes sense, if you have a broad definition of the word "sense"
Originally Posted By Spooky Ghost This thread is more entertaining than the shows going on hiatus due to the strike...
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>This thread is more entertaining than the shows going on hiatus due to the strike...<< So what you're saying is I steal motel towels. Interesting.
Originally Posted By Disneyland55 I understand why writers would ask for more money. I can understand why most employees anywhere would ask for more money. But I also understand that employers have the right to say no. Taking it to this extreme is selfish. I would love to make more money at my job, but I feel my pay is fair. Even if I did not feel that my pay was fair I couldn't imagine taking part in a strike like this. If I felt that I wasn't being paid fairly, or that there wasn't room to grow, then I would seek other employment. On another note, I find it hard to pity anyone who makes more than me, especially if they make 6 figures. If I made more than $200,000, maybe I would understand the tough time people who only make $200,000 are going through. But sarcasm aside... I also work 60 hour plus work weeks. I make slightly less than $55,000 (but in that range). My job is very stressful as well. I do a lot to make money for my company. I have come up with many ideas that have saved money and increased overall profit. I live in the Seattle market, so my cost of living is only slightly less than most areas in California. I guess you could say I am in a similar situation that the writers are in. And yet I don't pity them. I feel like I live a pretty comfortable life, and I am grateful for that. I am thankful for what I do have, and don't spend too much time dwelling on what I could have if I were more wealthy. I don't expect my employer to pay me more just because the bigwigs in my company are rich. I am aware that I have contributed to the money that they make, and yet I am still happy with what I do have. Does this mean that there is something wrong with me? Honestly, I blame unions. In most cases, unions in this day and age are obsolete. They are businesses that exist to make money. Many writers do not want to strike, but are forced to because the majority voted to strike. As far as the whole peeaanuut vs. the world theme that is going on, I can see his point. I can totally understand why Peeaanuut would have this opinion. He probably feels that he works equally as hard or harder than writers, but makes less money. As I said before, it is hard to pity someone who makes more money than you. I have no idea what Peeaanuut makes; I am just guessing. I do think that Peeaanuut and many others have said things out of anger that seem more strong than the author of the post actually felt.
Originally Posted By sunNrainfall <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPVKeW-NJ2o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RPVKeW-NJ2o</a> strike dancing!! check out the soul train part!!
Originally Posted By Rontheman Nobody is looking for pity. Here's a few facts - Unlike many unions, the WGA leadership are all working writers, so they are in touch with what the writers actually want. There was some dissent on the strike, but since it was called, the unity has been pretty amazing. What the writers want is to be able to keep writing. The whole idea of residuals is that some of your pay is defered over the usable lifetime of your work. Now that series TV are being shown on the internet in place of repeats, writers stand to lose a significant part of their income if they don't share in those profits in some small way. If there are no profits to be had there, they don't get anything. At this point, the amount Mike Ovitz got to leave Disney is far more than what all the writers in the guild would collect if the studios gave us what we want on the internet for the next three years. Is that how you would rather see the profits distributed?
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Originally Posted By DlandJB I am on your side. I say burn the studios. im with you guys. I mean, once I get off my real job of course. But than I am with you guys. 100%.>>> OK, I don't want to just show up to bash, but honestly, Peeaanuut,you sound like a snob. Ok, maybe I do want to show up to bash. But I think you have a very odd view of what writers do and how most of them are compensated for their work. No one ever questions that song writers should get residuals. Why shouldn't movie and television writers receive the same consideration.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>Ok, maybe I do want to show up to bash. But I think you have a very odd view of what writers do and how most of them are compensated for their work. No one ever questions that song writers should get residuals. Why shouldn't movie and television writers receive the same consideration.<<< Again, I don't think Peeanut actually "thinks" about what he/she is posting. He/She gives every indication of simply wanting attention, by any means necessary. Maybe not creating chaos in the world at large, but definitely creating annoyance and fostering his/her own bitter and distasteful ignorance on these boards (of course, there's nothing new about that).
Originally Posted By cstephens So instead of continuing to bash another poster, how about we get back to the topic at hand? /cs
