Originally Posted By Mr X ***in that sense I can understand DAR and his point about "torture and kill em all, and let God sort em out"...*** Is this what you're referring to? To be clear, I don't AGREE with such a sentiment, I just said I can understand it. And I said as much to DAR many times, too.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<I saw no where near as much protest and anger as over this Prop 8 debacle. And that I find sickening.>. I know I've spent a helluva lot of time raging against torture, even created a thread or two about it over the past 4.5 years on LP.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>You find my comments "sickening"?<<< Not aimed at you dude, this is in general that I have not seen as much outrage on the boards as the Prop 8 issue, that's what I find sickening. Both show we have issues in society, but one is about physical harm, which I find harder to deal with.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Now, on the whole "illegal" issue, all I'm saying is that we didn't need ANYONES' permission to pursue the culprits of 9/11 or their supporters. We didn't ask anyones' permission to war with Japan after Pearl Harbor, did we?<<< The UN did not exist then. For international security to be best served, we need to have a set of standards, and the UN security council do that. By the US breaching international law, it opens the doors for any country to pick and choose. It is also dishonorable for the US to break an agreement that we brokered.
Originally Posted By Mr X I think a lot of the torture and human rights (and Americans' privacy rights) must have occured during that time you were away from WE. Plenty of outrage and vitriol to go around on these issues. I certainly said my piece, so much so that I pretty much figured I'd get banned in fact (I really do TRY not to go that far, but some stuff riles me up including all of the above..yes the Prop 8 stuff too since I feel strongly about equality). So, I guess I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. I'm outraged by all of it, yeah pretty much equally believe it or not.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I know there have been some threads, but it does not feel as many. Maybe the difference is these atrocities have been committed over a protracted period whereas Prop 8 had a flash point for people to focus on.
Originally Posted By Mr X Well yeah, I'd agree that the sheer volume of the Prop 8 stuff is over the top. Interestingly, it seems only two people who kept the flare ups coming which is frankly pretty impressive.
Originally Posted By Mr X And don't forget, one of the "hottest topics" was actual begun by one of those two.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris "Bob, Please post a link to your story. Thanks" Unfortunately I have no link. It was sent to me as an email.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Here's a link I found which was almost identical: <a href="http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushresume.htm" target="_blank">http://politicalhumor.about.co...sume.htm</a>