Originally Posted By jonvn "And you can keep evading the question and pretending you're the victim all you want." When are you going to claim you're not a holocaust denier again? You have had to do it several times now. I think that there is obviously something there, because it keeps getting brought up, and you keep having to state that you are not. Makes me very suspicious.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Why won't you explain what you meant when you said "It's not Richard Branson who is saying this." Who is saying it?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Because I'm not. Why do you keep asking? Is it because you do not like people who deny that they are holocaust deniers? Is that because you are one? And more to the point, why won't you answer an honest question about a comment you made during a global warming debate? Is it because you can't answer questions honestly?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Please, for the love of God, exchange e-mail addresses and take this elsewhere.
Originally Posted By jonvn Oh, just ignore the topic. He's trying to tell us all that he's not a holocaust denier. And I imagine he's going to deny making repeated anti-semitic remarks in here, too. I predict it.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder And being or not being a holocaust denier has what to do with global warming?
Originally Posted By jonvn About as much as what he keeps trying to say, which I'm not sure of, because I'm not reading past the first sentence on any of his posts. The point is, that you can take any phrase or idea, and spin it into reality simply by repeating it over and over again. The fact that Douglas continually denies it is meaningless. What is important is that it keeps getting brought up, and is being spun into something out of thin air. In that regard, it is related to this discussion because that is what has been going on here. That is how it is related. The fact that Douglas may in fact be a holocaust denier, anti-semite, sexual deviant, or a self-proclaimed neo-nazi has nothing to do with it, even though he is devoting a great deal of time to the idea (and of course, where there is smoke, there is fire). That's the point.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh The point is that jonvn will not engage in honest debate. He thinks he can take any phrase or idea, and spin it into reality simply by repeating it over and over again. He can't.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <So you are refusing to deny making anti-semitic remarks, eh?> No, but you are refusing to engage in honest debate.
Originally Posted By Mr X You know, Doug, this is just going to keep eating at you, day after day, until you finally blow your stack like Michael Richards or Mel Gibson. Dude, you need to CONFRONT your anti-semetic feelings and get to the root of all that hatred. Seriously, it would probably do you some good to speak to some of the family members of the victims of the holocaust...I'm sure you'll find yourself less able to deny it when you pluck up the courage to see those people and hear their stories. You need to turn it around, Doug. Seriously, NOT cool.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh I don't have anti-semitic feelings. I do have contempt for people who evade and insult instead of engage in honest debate. Do you really want to associate with people like that?
Originally Posted By jonvn "I don't have anti-semitic feelings" And yet you can't keep from talking about it.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 By the way, have you stopped beating your wife yet, Jonvn? (Similar catch 22 question)
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <And yet you can't keep from talking about it.> Because you keep talking about it, in order to avoid answering an honest question. Why do you keep talking about it? Are you anti-semitic and a holocaust denier? Was it anti-semitics and holocaust deniers that said you said Richard Branson did say? Do you know this because they're friends of yours? How many anti-semitic, holocaust denying friends do you have? Mr X seems pretty interested in finding more - is he one of them?
