Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^^You lost me on that one. I don't consider myself a specific park guy. I'm a "theme park" guy, haha.
Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer well I have my preferences. I am a "theme park guy" but i prefer wdw and don't pay too too much attention to the other parks
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>You don't get the feeling you're in Hollywood during ToT...Now I really don't get where you're coming from.<<< Umm, you are. In 1939. >>>^^^Nope. You're on a film set. Pay attention to the queue. <<< And once you clear the queue, it becomes real, you've stopped filming, and something actually happens. >>It's just straight forward being in Tomorrowland<<< Yeah...because the look of Star Trous matches the Jules Verneian look of DL's and DLP's TL perfectly, right? If you can't recognize that, you really are in Fanboi heaven...
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Umm, you are. In 1939.>> No, you're not. The incident happened on Halloween in 1939. <<And once you clear the queue, it becomes real, you've stopped filming, and something actually happens.>> Doesn't change the fact you're on a movie set. Whether or not something "real" happens during the ride is up to your interpretation, but the queue and the gift shops are movie sets. <<Yeah...because the look of Star Trous matches the Jules Verneian look of DL's and DLP's TL perfectly, right?>> Buzz does too, right? Who gives a crap. It's a good attraction, and fits in Tomorrowland. And from every picture I've seen of the ride buildings exterior, it fits fine.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^Nope. You're on a film set. Pay attention to the queue. the queue is not the endor forest - ? really ?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<the queue is not the endor forest - ? really ?>> Nope. It's a set. The trees are all movie facades with the lighting exposed behind them. And even if it was...that would bring up another crazy question: If we're on Endor, why the hell are we going on a Starspeeder to Endor? Haha
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>No, you're not. The incident happened on Halloween in 1939.<<< IN THE HOLLYWOOD TOWER HOTEL. Gee. Where could that be? ;-) >>>Doesn't change the fact you're on a movie set. Whether or not something "real" happens during the ride is up to your interpretation, but the queue and the gift shops are movie sets.<<<< So? Indy could do the same. >>> Buzz does too, right? Who gives a crap. It's a good attraction, and fits in Tomorrowland. And from every picture I've seen of the ride buildings exterior, it fits fine.<<< In DL, no. In ours, yes...The outside and styling of the ride and story fits somewhat into our TL. My only problem with it is that it's a franchise.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>And even if it was...that would bring up another crazy question: If we're on Endor, why the hell are we going on a Starspeeder to Endor? Haha<<< Because, once you leave the set, riiiight where the directors chairs are, you go to wherever the Star Speeders are launched. It's a VERY subtle change, but one ***I***, the Studios "hater" knows about. It's there, it makes sense, Indy could do the same thing, and be just as good.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<IN THE HOLLYWOOD TOWER HOTEL. Gee. Where could that be? ;-)>> Ummm...what the hell are you trying to say here? That since the incident happened in 1939, obviously we have to be in 1939? You're talking yourself in circles here, EE. <<So? Indy could do the same.>> Oi vey...and destroy the terrific build up the attraction already has? No thank you. I'd rather keep the stunt show if that's the case. <<In DL, no.>> Go look at pictures from DL's Tomorrowland and the outside of their Star Tours ride and show me how it doesn't fit. Because seriously...I'm just not seeing it.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Because, once you leave the set, riiiight where the directors chairs are, you go to wherever the Star Speeders are launched. It's a VERY subtle change, but one ***I***, the Studios "hater" knows about. It's there, it makes sense, Indy could do the same thing, and be just as good.>> And then you get dumped back into a movie set. Basically negating any adventure you were just on. No, Indy would be no where near as good as it is in DL and Adventureland. I find it odd that no matter how may people tell you this you still haven't caught on...haha.
Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer <<No, Indy would be no where near as good as it is in DL and Adventureland. I find it odd that no matter how may people tell you this you still haven't caught on...haha.>> It's more of an opinion thing. It depends on how you picture the attraction
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<It's more of an opinion thing. It depends on how you picture the attraction>> I know. I'm giving him a hard time. He's a friend of mine.
Originally Posted By leobloom Many of the early MGM attractions--Star Tours, especially--play with the question of movie set versus "actual" adventure. I think it's indicative of postmodern irony and smudging the line between "reality" and "perception." MK attractions tended to be more sincere in their commitment to their illusions, whereas MGM was largely about revealing how the illusion worked (think Indy, Monster Sound Show, even Star Tours where you can see the simulator cabin before you board). TOT seems to have taken a more MK-style approach, in that it doesn't attempt to reveal the illusions and "plays it straight." The adventure is "real," not something taking place on a soundstage. I guess MGM's original postmodern playfulness is charming or off-putting, depending on your love of MK-style attractions. For me, I feel the same way that Hokie does: I like the commitment to illusion that you get with IJA at DL. But then again I also take pictures of Disney urinals.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Brilliant post, leo. That's why I love ToT so much and don't feel to strongly about the theming of Star Tours at DHS(love the ride, of course). Tower is a real experience, and it never tries to be something else. Star Tours doesn't know what it wants to be in the Studios.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Ummm...what the hell are you trying to say here? That since the incident happened in 1939, obviously we have to be in 1939? You're talking yourself in circles here, EE.<<< That's just the thing...You become PART OF IT. The same happens in ST, in TSMM, and could be in Indy. The Studios lets you do that. >>> Oi vey...and destroy the terrific build up the attraction already has? No thank you. I'd rather keep the stunt show if that's the case.<<< It could keep it. In fact, it would have to. It would just need one more layer tacked on to it's front so you can transition from Studio to Jungle. Jungle set, that is. >>>Go look at pictures from DL's Tomorrowland and the outside of their Star Tours ride and show me how it doesn't fit. Because seriously...I'm just not seeing it. <<< "hard" and "gritty" don't fit next to "gleaming" and "retro futuristic"...
