Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer <<Now you know how I feel about IJA. Love IJA. But it doesn't match up with the whimsical feel of AdvL, the Tiki Room, JC, and in our case, PotC. It's the outlier.>> I say look at adventureland 20 years ago. That's what modern disney fans long for
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<You know what I mean. Look at the MEANING of the parks..DL/MK is the home of the classic Disney storytelling and it's characters. DCA/Studios only had DISNEY attached to it for marketing reasons. They, by nature, as a "studios" park, are more open to just DISNEY stories.>> I was being faceitious.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>You're seriously calling Star Wars....realistic? You do realize it is an homage to Buck Rodgers...right?<<<< In LOOK, Hokie, in LOOK. *headdesk* I mean, gunmetal, wiring, scuff marks and "real" looking ships don't exactly sit well next to gleaming gold, neon, and 30's "Retro Futuristic" architecture.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Now you know how I feel about IJA. Love IJA. But it doesn't match up with the whimsical feel of AdvL, the Tiki Room, JC, and in our case, PotC. It's the outlier.>> Again, I don't agree. While Jungle may be a funny ride, it's true theme is discovering the unknown and the dangers that accompany that discovery, mirroring that of Indy. And Pirates is far from a whimsical ride anymore. The feel was changed in the 2006 refurb to a much mroe serious tone, as reflected by the new attraction sign and the loss of Peg Leg Pete. And really, once Tiki goes back to the way it should be, it would be the only "whimsical" ride in the area.
Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer <<I mean, gunmetal, wiring, scuff marks and "real" looking ships don't exactly sit well next to gleaming gold, neon, and 30's "Retro Futuristic" architecture.>> And this looks well in dhs. How does this even remotely fit tl? I never got that, never will. Go listen to tomorrowland on walt disney's tour of disneyland. That's what EE and I are looking for
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I was being faceitious.<<< TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Listen...I'm tired of Walt quotes. I really am. They can be taken a stretched and molded into what ever someone wants them to mean. What I want is for the parks to follow the PRACTICES he set down, like quality over crap, which these rides do.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>> Don't blame me because your sarcasm detector is broken.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>> Again, I don't agree. While Jungle may be a funny ride, it's true theme is discovering the unknown and the dangers that accompany that discovery, mirroring that of Indy. And Pirates is far from a whimsical ride anymore. The feel was changed in the 2006 refurb to a much mroe serious tone, as reflected by the new attraction sign and the loss of Peg Leg Pete. And really, once Tiki goes back to the way it should be, it would be the only "whimsical" ride in the area.<<<< Jungle Cruise not being whimsical?! And you are a skipper? It USED to be that way, before humor was introduced. Now, it's what you mentioned, but with humor. It's comical. It's tongue in cheek. Same with Pirates, if you wanna argue that the ride has changed because of the sign, and because we lost Pete. Yeah, it's one big daring adventure...where pirates still sing, there are still sight gags galore, and now Jack Sparrow ends the thing rolling in treasure. I don't think the mood was changed at all. In fact, it's made even more amusing. (That said, I do miss the days when PotC was just a ride.) Tiki, even in the deplorable show it runs today is still very much full of whimsy. Sorry Hokie...Not buying it. Just because you are an Indy Fanboi doesn't mean that it'll work as well as you thematically think.
Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer <<...I'm tired of Walt quotes. I really am. They can be taken a stretched and molded into what ever someone wants them to mean.>> Not talking about walt, but the music. Sets good themeing
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Don't blame me because your sarcasm detector is broken. <<< I'm a literal guy....Shut it! LMAO! ;-)
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Jungle Cruise not being whimsical?! And you are a skipper? It USED to be that way, before humor was introduced. Now, it's what you mentioned, but with humor. It's comical. It's tongue in cheek.>> Seriously...read my posts a couple times before you reply. I never said it wasn't funny. I said it's true purpose was discovering the unknown. Trust me. We went over it for about an hour and a half during training. <<Same with Pirates, if you wanna argue that the ride has changed because of the sign, and because we lost Pete. Yeah, it's one big daring adventure...where pirates still sing, there are still sight gags galore, and now Jack Sparrow ends the thing rolling in treasure. I don't think the mood was changed at all. In fact, it's made even more amusing. >> Nope, it's now supposed to be a "real" ride, where as before it was a "cartoon" experience. I'm not arguing about that, because it comes straight from the mouths of WDI. <<Sorry Hokie...Not buying it. Just because you are an Indy Fanboi doesn't mean that it'll work as well as you thematically think.>> EE, you gotta be freaking joking man. I don't have to THINK it'll work as well as I do. IN KNOW IT DOES. IT ALREADY EXISTS! *slams head against desk*
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Seriously...read my posts a couple times before you reply. I never said it wasn't funny. I said it's true purpose was discovering the unknown. Trust me. We went over it for about an hour and a half during training.<<< That's not how it comes off AT ALL, though...It appears to be poking fun at all that. It's whimsy latched onto a serious topic...just like Pirates. >>> Nope, it's now supposed to be a "real" ride, where as before it was a "cartoon" experience. I'm not arguing about that, because it comes straight from the mouths of WDI.<<< Still doesn't alter the fact that it doesn't come off as "real"experience. Again, it's tongue in cheek....You go through a Pirate battle...and then sing with them?! Only made the funnier that Jack is there singing and hiding with the rest of the crew. >>> EE, you gotta be freaking joking man. I don't have to THINK it'll work as well as I do. IN KNOW IT DOES. IT ALREADY EXISTS!<<<< Did you read any of our previous posts?! It works in DL because it has to. In WDW, it doesn't need to be a 3rd party story. It can be original. They can be creative. They don't have to rely on an existing storyline. And again, just because you love it so doesn't mean that it works or that it's Walt's gift to attractions.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<It works in DL because it has to.>> No. That's not why it works. That's the rational you've concocted as to why it works there and why and can't work here. <<And again, just because you love it so doesn't mean that it works or that it's Walt's gift to attractions. >> Except it's the best thing WDI has put out since JII v1...and it does work. You just won't let it.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>No. That's not why it works. That's the rational you've concocted as to why it works there and why and can't work here.<<< And you've subsequently concocted reasons why it works. You are just as wrong or right as I am. Chill!!!!! ;-) >>Except it's the best thing WDI has put out since JII v1...and it does work. You just won't let it.<< Opinion. And again...Several thousand things in Tokyo and Hong Kong and even Paris send their wishes...
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<And you've subsequently concocted reasons why it works.>> No. I have an already constructed and insanely popular example of why it works. haha <<Opinion. And again...Several thousand things in Tokyo and Hong Kong and even Paris send their wishes...>> Hong Konog doesn't have crap nearly as good as it. Not yet. Mystic Manor could be great, but we have no idea of knowing. Paris? What does it have? Tokyo...you must be talking about the IJA clone they have at Disney Sea!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Hong Konog doesn't have crap nearly as good as it. Not yet. Mystic Manor could be great, but we have no idea of knowing. Paris? What does it have? Tokyo...you must be talking about the IJA clone they have at Disney Sea!<<< Hong Kong's MP and Grizzly Gulch/Point/WRE thing (I can NEVER get the name...) are going to be great, and totally original. Trust me...I know. Paris has an amazing Space Mountain built since IJA. Tokyo has an entire park, that's mostly original, also built IJA. To use Spirit's phrase...I think you have bulge for Indy!!!!!! ;-)
Originally Posted By vbdad55 You're seriously calling Star Wars....realistic? You do realize it is an homage to Buck Rodgers...right? It's a homage to much more than just Buck Rodgers-- however Lucas created his own universe and set of characters, themes and worlds- they do not belong in another world unless it possibly is a movie studios. Just as I agree with previous statement on Potter- it is so all encomapassing the issue i have is it deserves it's own park- or certain it's own section of a park - FAR from other themes to get the full immersion. I would have preferred it be built in the UK actually - One last huge property out there is Lord of the Rings and Hobbit--- again I'd love to see Disney get them but I'd either like it's own gate or else a complete separate section of an DHS expansion...nothing else next to it
Originally Posted By leobloom Hey, guys. Let's take a break from all this arguing and go hang out in the Cosmic Ray's restrooms where we can hold hands (better wash 'em first using the Brawny instructions) and have a group-sing of "Some Day My Prince Will Come." And then let's commence beating the snot out of each other figuring out if Doctor Jones belongs in Adventureland.
