Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Yeah, his entire prose is irritating, sanctimonious, and just all around foolish.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself Wait...I'm still trying to fathom the $100mil for the Tow Mater ride... I am disturbed by this to no end...
Originally Posted By ChiMike I am too Lee. I am really shocked it hasn't been brought up more. If it is getting to that cost level, well, I can't write what I would like to write. Talk about a vanity project. I am eagerly looking forward to Carsland. I will be there with my mouseears on. I just cannot understand why they continue to do this, if true. Perhaps due to their new structure.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>Talk about a vanity project.<< That's gotta be part of it. I know a certain reporter is looking into why Disney attractions cost so much more than Uni ones. (Like Fantasyland costing about $160mil more than Wizarding World) Should be an interesting read...
Originally Posted By sjhym333 I am very very curious about how this will all play out. Part of me thinks that the bells of alarm are a bit premature. I do expect that we will see an increase preference towards resort guests. I know Jim McPhee very well for a couple of decades and I know him to be a real Disney guy. So part of me wants to trust the work he is doing. Our family has an AP. If the XPass thing comes to pass and it really affects the way we do the parks when we visit we just wont renew. It's that simple. Disney is going to have to find a balance for resort guests, AP holders and day guests. Any good marketing person knows that you want to be good to your most loyal fan and keep them loyal but also growth has to come from new fans and ticking off a guest who buys a one day ticket isnt the smartest route to do that. I know that Disney wants to funnel everyone to their resorts but they also run the risk of alienating lots of people.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer It's a Lasseter Pet Project and it's synergy in Disneyland. Why WOULDN'T they dump money here?
Originally Posted By ChiMike I'm sure Jim will bring a great common sense to the project. I also believe that while he is one of the point persons for it, he, ultimately, does not have the say on the way it is used to help funnel everyone to the resorts. These millions are not being invested without Burbank setting clear directives and goals.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>It's a Lasseter Pet Project and it's synergy in Disneyland. Why WOULDN'T they dump money here? << Obviously, they are. And they should. $100 million for this attraction is obscene. It is worse than M:S and DL's pooh. It is unbelievable. Lee already brought up IOA and MK. The latest number in what the original DCA cost was slightly UNDER $600 million. Think about that.
Originally Posted By leobloom Didn't Al say that the Tow Mater spinner wouldn't "just" be a spinner? What'd he mean by that? Just BS to help cover the sticker shock, or what?
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Didn't Al say that the Tow Mater spinner wouldn't "just" be a spinner?<< For $100 million (again if true), it better include barf bags and toupees
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Didn't Al say that the Tow Mater spinner wouldn't "just" be a spinner? What'd he mean by that? Just BS to help cover the sticker shock, or what?<<< Same way everyone said TLM would be a E TICKET. It's the typical Disney Spin.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself Eh...they're probably adding some interactive elements to the Mater AA and such. Really...how much can you do to a ride like that? And to push it to $100mil is just crazy and will likely never be worth that.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb "Like I said, I'm not panicking about this one yet, but if it is implemented >>>I'll be getting my son and I a couple of those throw-away phones just for Disney World vacations. " Al's article also mentioned that you can use loaner phones from Disney. That would be useful for all the cheapies like me who don't pay for smartphones.<<< I think you misunderstood what I meant. My son and I both have cell phones and mine is a smart phone. But if this goes through with Disney using our cells to track our every move on property I won't be bringing our real phones with our real numbers on property ever again. It really does smack of Big Brother and I don't like that aspect one little bit.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Didn't Al say that the Tow Mater spinner wouldn't "just" be a spinner? What'd he mean by that? Just BS to help cover the sticker shock, or what?" It isn't a spinner. Picture an elaborately themed outdoor version of a dark ride with vehicles that whip around through the course: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/masteryofmaps/4961698213/lightbox/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/m...ightbox/</a>
Originally Posted By leobloom I was thinking it was a "spinning" carnival ride (kinda like the Tea Cups), but it looks more involved than that. Of course it looks a little like a Pixar version of Chester and Hester's...
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I was thinking it was a "spinning" carnival ride (kinda like the Tea Cups), but it looks more involved than that." That's what I first thought too. The original concept art made it look as though it was just a Mater themed spinner.
Originally Posted By Daannzzz I think the Mater ride is an extra large version of the Lady Bug Boogie where the "cars" transfer from one turntable to another via centrifugal force. Maters look like it has 4 larger tables and the cars transfer from one table to another along a path (As opposed to a figure 8) with the wagon whipping around behind it all themed to the hilt. It just doesn't seem to be $100 million worth to me.But I may be mistaken about the ride mechanics. It could be that Al got the info wrong and the Flying tire ride is going over 100 million which would make a bit more sense to me since it may be a more complicated attraction with some newer technology.
Originally Posted By Bolna I thought it would be like the Cars Quatre Roues Rallye in WDS: <a href="http://www.discussthemagic.com/distionary/upload/DSC00156.JPG" target="_blank">http://www.discussthemagic.com...0156.JPG</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "It could be that Al got the info wrong and the Flying tire ride is going over 100 million which would make a bit more sense to me since it may be a more complicated attraction with some newer technology." That does make more sense. "I thought it would be like the Cars Quatre Roues Rallye in WDS:" In principle perhaps, but I certainly hope the execution is a whole lot better than that. The LA times ran a somewhat detailed story about the ride a while ago: <a href="http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/maters-junkyard-jamb-7552/" target="_blank">http://travel.latimes.com/dail...mb-7552/</a> The article states "The C-ticket attraction blends a traditional teacup ride and classic whip ride with cars transferring from one spinning roundtable to the next along a circuitous route."
