Originally Posted By kennect Well Dave and Spirit, What a crock of bull...Bible belt dumbing down now..As if Walmarting wasn't enough for Spirit...I know what the Bible belt is...I live in it...Trust me WDW isn't catering to those true Bible Belters...If so there would be nothing but fried chicken on every menu....The whole comment on such makes me sick, another attempt to tell a group that they are not worthy of a WDW vacation... And Dave, as far as those dry counties go....Most of the cities within them have voted in alcohol sales...So the cities get the tax plus while the county goes without...You make it sound that we are so freakin imbred and backwards...That is definitely not the case by any means...I for one am not my cousins half sister for sure....
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I didn't mean to offend. It was simply an exploration of demographic tastes. California offers more Mexican offerings, as well as California cuisine. TDL offers more fish options and caters to Japanese tastes. HKDL is maily chinese food. And DLP has a very European set of choices - Italian, French, and German. Baked goods are very European too - more dark chocolate and buttery pastries. So I was wondering if WDW was scaling their menu to appeal to the largest catchment areas - the South and Mid West of America. And if it was, I am disappointed with this as WDW markets globally. FWIW, I am not speaking as an untravelled person. I have been to 33 of the 48 Continental US states, and in my experience, the tastes of the South and Mid West were somewhat more conservative than San Francisco where I grew up. I am really offended that you guys became so riled up when I do try to be balanced. Remember, I live on another continent these days and therefore the only way I can learn about these things are to ask questions. What I think I have uncovered are real sensitivities and I have learnt to perhaps use different terminology.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>like elk, venison, alligator, and armadillo (though perhaps it could be dangerous), and opposum is'nt horrible, Are you a buffoon because you do not like them are have yet to experience or just flat don't want to try. There are plenty of choices at WDW for the non-daring, let's face it, it's all about a assembly line mine set, not an area of our country, and their dietary habbits. Some people from other countries do not like American food. How should we label them.<<< I have tried most of these, and I love Elk, Venison and Alligator, I also like Snake, Shark, Osterich and Kangaroo. Just because someone had a narrow pallete does not make them wrong, but an unwillingness to try something new does in my book. The world is full of such amazing experiences, it boggles my mind when people stick to the same thing (says the hypocrit that keeps returning to Disney resorts time and time again). But I think we can see by the fact it is always so easy to get into Restaurant Marrekech shows how unadventurous the ave WDW patron can be. And Boma is popular, but in our experience last year, it was one of the easiest restaurants to get short notice to when we had to move our Ohana rservations.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Well Dave and Spirit, What a crock of bull...Bible belt dumbing down now..As if Walmarting wasn't enough for Spirit...I know what the Bible belt is...I live in it...Trust me WDW isn't catering to those true Bible Belters...If so there would be nothing but fried chicken on every menu....The whole comment on such makes me sick, another attempt to tell a group that they are not worthy of a WDW vacation...>> Come down from your pulpit. No offense was meant. I used the Bible Belt to describe a large geographical region of this country, largely the SE and parts of the MW. Having spent considerable time in these regions, I can say the average tastes are less sophisticated than say those in LA, NYC, Las Vegas, Miami, San Francisco, DC etc ...
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I was going to put this opinion on a separate thread but why bother? So here it goes... I stopped by the Yak and Yeti (stupidest name on Earth BTW) and while I didn't care to eat there, based on a trusted friend's recommendation to skip, I wanted to at least check out how this new eatery fits into the Asia scheme of things. I was pleasantly surprise (by DAK standards) they did not wager on the look of the place. The entire corner has been transformed by the new complex. I do love the new and expanside outdoor dining area, even though I am concerned the newly installed wood tables will soon start to rot due to humidity outside and rain in the summer, which will effectively render this area unusable during most summer afternoons. I loved the water fountain in the center of the dining area. Very pretty flow of water.. Now, if only the teenage brats could keep their hands off the water, it would be better. I think Disney needs to add pirahnas to this fountain's pool. I also was surprised the former counter service option was demolished and rebuilt to face the main walkway, with some degree of decor that makes it cosmetically pleasant. The menu in the counter service area is asian style and varied to a degree. Of course..like Spirit has mentioned before.. it remains to be seen how well the average guest at WDW reacts to this offering. Next to the counter service, is the obligatory gift shop. Again, I was pleasantly surprised to see non-disney, theme-specific merchandise here.. like chinese robes and dresses, etc etc. They also has your generic Yak and Yeti tees for sale that read "Orlando", much like the Hard Rock tees do. Does that mean the Y&Y will have other venues outside DAK? As for the chinese merchandise, it's a valiant effort, but I will give it until the summer before it's all replaced with the same crap that is sold at the other gift shops on property. Gee, HSM2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 videos are just dying to land on those shelves. Now, the main event. Y&Y sit down restaurant. Very pretty. Again, it carries the asian theme quite well. While I was not able to explore the place at will, due to the nasty managers standing at the door preventing onlookers from going in..what little I saw, looked nice. The main bar to the right of the main lobby is nicely appointed. I loved the statue in the main restaurant lobby, and a quick peek at the dining area allowed me to see enough. Dark moods and woods, with some pretty tables that at the moment, were 80% or so empty. A look at the menu...the food choices are OK I guess.. but nothing you can find at other chinese places around town for much cheaper. Seems like a full meal here may cost you about $40 per person, depending on whether you add an appetizer or salad, and dessert. One more thing.. outside in the dining area, they have placed yet another bar, selling spirits and asian-style margaritas (??) and a new restroom area is located in the backside of the dinning area as well. However, why add another bar? Just mere steps away you have another bar next to the DVC kiosk, not to mentioned the one inside the restaurant itself. Alcohol overkill? NO. Wallet overkill to keep the drunks and the accountants happy. I won't recommend this place since I have not eaten there.. but check out my friend's report on the overall Y&Y experience on www.allearsnet.com BTW... DAK was jammed packed today. Think DL park in a very bad day and you get the idea. People were moving slowly thru the park and if you made a bad move or quick turn, you'd be run over by a Teamters approved stroller or motorized wheelchair.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I wouldn't doubt that Y&Y will open elsewhere. They are not Disney owned, so Landry's has the rights to the concept. Although most of the design work was done by Disney, which should be obvious to anyone who's been in one of Landry's other chains. I have heard nothing but good things about the food, but the prices do seem a bit high and the items are certainly not exotic (although I do realize that to some hick from Alabama, Lo mein might as well be Martian cuisine). Not accepting the DDE Card is definitely not something I'm thrilled about -- what's worse is the thought they'll start accepting it and cut all the counter serve places, which would be a typical Disney screw the guest move. I would hope the merchandise stays, but you know if it isn't princesses, pirates, pins or plush, the Mouse isn't happy. I'd think, though, that Landry's has some control over that too. You don't see Hannah Montana DVDs at Rainforest Cafe to my recollection. As to DAK being crowded, I noticed on my last visit that even more landscaping areas (look near the safari entrance and exit) have been paved over for fat, lazy brat double-wide stroller parking. I honestly can't begin to imagine what it would be like there on say Thursday ... or Christmas week when they have capacity crowds. Those things -- along with the 'I'm too lazy to walk' ECVs -- are just taking up ALL of the walkways at WDW parks.
Originally Posted By jkayjs Thanks for the decor review TDLFAN. We'll be there in just under 4 wks and plan to try it. <<along with the 'I'm too lazy to walk' ECVs -- are just taking up ALL of the walkways at WDW parks.>> Spirit cover your eyes for a moment. I was in Wal-Mart the other day(no one tell Spirit what I just wrote). My goodness folks can't even walk to the front of the check-out to get their cartons of smokes anymore. No they have to ride on the Wal-Mart supplied ECV's. Chrimmy as if the wc with the basket on the front wasn't good enough. Go figure.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Not that he needs me to defend him, but davewasbaloo is one of the least likely to offend anyone. Even though he doesn't like the way the MK has become, he's still one of the fairest voices out there.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I was in Wal-Mart the other day(no one tell Spirit what I just wrote). >> Tie her down and force her to read Al Lutz columns for 36 hours straight. That oughta keep her out of WalMart for good.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<but davewasbaloo is one of the least likely to offend anyone.>> I find him very offensive since he has yet to meet me ... yeah, what a big jerk!
Originally Posted By kennect I know that Dave and Spirit meant not to offend anyone....But when you live in the south and hear Bible Belt it is something to take offense with...The whole concept is offensive and doesn't represent the greatest majority that live in the south....If Disney in Florida catered to such they would be out of business in a matter of months....Sorry that I said anything in relation to it but I just couldn't help it...The thread is about food, the mention of the Bible Belt brings in so many negative connections to things that have nothing to do with such....And basic human rights is the worse issue...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^fair enough ... FWIW, I'm hankering for some damn fine BBQ right now. ... But I think I'll go to bed instead.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Ok, so we're all cool then. I love the look of the food in Doobie's montage. However, I really wish there was somewhere to get a curry in WDW.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Where the typical guest thinks chicken on pizza is exotic and doesn't have a clue what a risotto is!< I'd just like to say at this juncture that I don't consider chicken on pizza to be exotic, but I like it. And I'm ashamed to admit that I don't know what a risotto is. I could look it up, but it'd be much for fun for the Spirit to mock me as he educates me! >...Tostitos branded bag chips and salsa at San Angel Inn (unforgiveable)...< This still amazes me. And the salsa is completely bland, almost a tomato paste with no fire, no flavor. I get some really incredible salsa with homemade chips at my favorite place here in Dalls, called Herrera's. A high-falutin' joint like the San Angel Inn would do well to learn from them.
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^You're use to Tex-Mex now. The San Angel Inn would be empty if it was outside Epcot.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<This still amazes me. And the salsa is completely bland, almost a tomato paste with no fire, no flavor. I get some really incredible salsa with homemade chips at my favorite place here in Dalls, called Herrera's. A high-falutin' joint like the San Angel Inn would do well to learn from them.>> I will not return to what once was a fave of mine because of this. It really is beyond tacky and insulting. There are local Mexican places in strip centers that can make amazing chips and salsa. And they did have great homemade stuff at San Angel until at least 2000. It just is so tacky ... so ... so WalMart!
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Wish ya'll wouldn't mention risotto, I've had such desire to make it since Spirit brought it up here. Have to get over Thanksgiving, then I can make it. It's nice when you substitute Marsala for 1/4 to 1/2 of the water. Fresh asparagus added.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Stop. You (plus the wonderful smells wafting through my kitchen right now) are making me hungry!!!
