Originally Posted By WilliamK99 There are corrupt politicians on both sides, but there are also good, honest, honorable people on both sides who genuinely want what's best for their constituents and their country.<< Those are the exception, not the rule...
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>how about the US prosecuting pot users and sellers. << Waste of money and resources. Plus, pot could be a huge cash crop, generating jobs and tax revenue, too. >>public monies bailing out large corporations while the weaker/smaller economic entities continue to struggle<< Unfair. Especially when those larger entities (banks) screw over their customers or use the bailout to pay executive bonuses. >>US power to disregard the most fundamental civil liberty: "producing bodies"<< Um... what? >>let's talk about the complete and total withdrawal of US military from global 'hot zones'----- immediately, not this out by the year(fill in the blanks ) based on incremental retraction.<< Immediate? I prefer it to be well thought out as possible so as to avoid replicating conditions that lead to the wars to begin with. But in general, yes, I'd like to see us play "world police" a whole lot less than the neocons did.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Gary Johnson who I voted for needed to get 5% of the popular vote.<< Libertarians can't seem to craft a cohesive message. I'm not saying they don't have some nice ideas, it's just that they have a problem being concise at times. They ramble a bit.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Those are the exception, not the rule...<< LOL, I feel like I've stumbled into the argument clinic.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I don't know Johnson seemed to have the most cohesive message of a Libertarian in quite some time.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<but there are also good, honest, honorable people on both sides who genuinely want what's best for their constituents and their country.<< In the 60 Minutes piece I saw Evan Bayh was interviewed. He basically said when the Democrats or Republicans meet together on their own at a luncheon or breakfast, if you even break one inch from the party you're pretty much railroaded and pressured to tow the party line.
Originally Posted By iamsally >>>Right at this very moment, Clint Eastwood is out there, somewhere, trying to figure out how in the hell a chair won the election.<<< ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>"producing bodies"<< >>Um... what?<< Habeas Corpus. Guess his Latin is a little rusty. >>LOL, I feel like I've stumbled into the argument clinic.<< No you haven't.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost And here I was wondering what we were going to talk about after the election was over. Silly me!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 >>LOL, I feel like I've stumbled into the argument clinic.<< <No you haven't.> Just had a scary flashback. {shiver}
Originally Posted By Labuda "The age of wealthy white people making money on the backs of minorities is over." Oh, how I wish that was true! Wealthy white people will still make plenty of money on the backs of those of us who're minorities.
Originally Posted By Labuda "I think Tom was more responding to the ridiculousness of the statement "The spoiled brats of this nation figured out they can vote themselves portions of the nation's own treasury." by pointing out that the spoiled brats who have really been helping themselves to large portions of our treasury lately are the already wealthy folks who insist they need more more more and buy votes to make sure that happens. << In that case, I agree completely " Ah, ok... I take back post #94 then!
Originally Posted By dagobert That's very interesting. I didn't know that many already speculated that President Obama would lose. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/faulty-predictions-for-election-2012/2012/11/07/4cb0a532-2914-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/...ory.html</a>
Originally Posted By mawnck Speculated? Rachel Maddow had a lengthy montage of pretty much every conservative talking head on television confidently declaring that Romney had it in the bag. It's fairly early in this epic (and lengthy) clip: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/rachel-maddow-republicans-shellacked-election-night_n_2092290.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...290.html</a>
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "I don't expect miracles from Obama" You shouldn't. There's likely to e even more knee jerk obstructionism this time around. "Speculated? Rachel Maddow had a lengthy montage of pretty much every conservative talking head on television confidently declaring that Romney had it in the bag." Republicans have a hard time with facts. That happens when your news sources are Fox, Drudge & Rush. What's sad is that the GOP leadership hasn't noticed the problem.
