Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan What's even worse is, no massive law is perfect on the first try. It requires tweaking, adjustments, etc. That's what legislators are supposed to do. Instead, Republicans are just trying as hard as they can to hobble Obamacare, make it as ineffective as possible, just so they can say that they won. It's cynical and unAmerican.<< That's exactly right. If Republicans did what is now unthinkable -- actually doing the hard work of hammering out details, making changes and tweaks and helping refine and improve the Affordable Care Act -- we'd be better off as a country. Instead, they've opted to go for division and negativity, which did wonders for them in the last presidential elections. >>We should have just expanded Medicare to be available to all.<< This would make too much sense.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<It is already hurting a lot of hourly workers indirectly who now get less than 30 hours per week so that their employer does not have to pay for coverage or the penalty. So there's that.>> Recent research has shown that NOT to be the case. <<Opponents of Obamacare say it will kill jobs, and they specifically say provisions forcing employers to offer health insurance to workers will encourage smaller businesses to cut jobs and cut hours. But a new report finds that, if anything, fewer people are working part-time this year than the year before.>> Source: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nbcnews.com/health/obamacare-wont-slash-workers-hours-report-finds-6C10732487">http://www.nbcnews.com/health/...10732487</a>
Originally Posted By ecdc Good news! Republicans are set to vote to repeal Obamacare for the 40th time. The bill they'll be voting on is called the "Keep the IRS Off Your Healthcare Act of 2013." I wish I were kidding.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Of course the Republicans want to appeal it. Many states are already projecting that premiums are going to be lower than previously reported. The following article from ThinkProgress cites specific examples from several states of healthcare premiums that will decrease as a result of the Affordable Care Act. For those who believe that TP's reporting is heavily biased, please be aware that I footnoted all but one embedded link from the article so that the skeptics can be assured that the info being presented is coming mostly from mainstream newspapers and government offices. (The one link I didn't include was to a Louisiana newspaper article that had been pulled.) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/07/27/2365901/growing-number-of-states-are-reporting-lower-than-expected-health-care-premiums/">http://thinkprogress.org/healt...remiums/</a> <> Growing Number Of States Are Reporting Lower Than Expected Health Care Premiums By Igor Volsky on Jul 27, 2013 at 2:14 pm Health premiums in Maryland’s exchanges will be “among the lowest(1) of the 12 states that have available proposed or approved rates for comparison,” the state’s exchange — Maryland Health Connection(2) — announced Friday. The news comes just as New York(3), Oregon(4), Montana(5), California(6), and Louisiana are also reporting lower than expected premiums. In Maryland, a 25-year-old will be able to purchase a plan that is more comprehensive than policies currently available on the individual market for $114 per month(7), while a middle aged adult will have to pay approximately $260 per month for insurance. A 21-year-old non-smoker can start as low as $93 a month(8). Officials say they used their authority to deny rate increases to reduce the proposed premiums by “more than 50 percent.” Thirty other states have have similar authority. The prices Marylanders will pay are lower than the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) anticipated, but do cost more than the bare-bones plans that are available today. Residents will have a choice of nine insurance carriers and three out of four people(9) purchasing coverage through the exchange will qualify for tax credits, further reducing the cost of coverage. Nationally, 6 million out of the 7 million people who are expected to enroll in 2014 will receive subsidies. “Historically, insurance carriers have been allowed to turn down people(10) with pre-existing conditions and allow only the healthiest individuals into their plans,” said Rebecca Pearce, Executive Director of the Maryland Health Benefit Exchange. “In 2014, that will change, and 740,000 Marylanders will have new access to health coverage with more robust benefits. Earlier this week, the Connecticut exchange announced that since a new insurer lowered its projected(11) premiums, “the average cost for an individual-market HealthyCT plan dropped by 36 percent, from $427 per month to $271.” In Nevada, preliminary costs find that strong competition between insurers in some areas of the state will lower individuals’ premiums(12). The news is on track with a report from the Department of Health and Human Services, which found that “the lowest cost silver plan in the individual market in 2014 is, on average, 18 percent less expensive”(13) than past projections. <> Footnotes for embedded links: (1) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://marylandhbe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MHC-Individual-Market-Rates-Analysis-Release-July262013-FINAL.pdf">http://marylandhbe.com/wp-cont...INAL.pdf</a> (2) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.marylandhealthconnection.gov/">http://www.marylandhealthconnection.gov/</a> (3) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/07/17/2313111/thanks-to-obamacare-new-yorkers-health-insurance-premiums-will-plunge-50-percent/">http://thinkprogress.org/healt...percent/</a> (4) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2013/06/oregon_slashes_2014_health_ins.html">http://www.oregonlive.com/heal...ins.html</a> (5) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/26/2219991/montana-obamacare-better-cheaper-plans/">http://thinkprogress.org/healt...r-plans/</a> (6) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/23/news/economy/california-obamacare-premiums/index.html">http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/2...dex.html</a> (7) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/313885-obamacare-premiums-lower-than-expected-in-maryland?utm_campaign=hillhealthwatch&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter">http://thehill.com/blogs/healt...=twitter</a> (8) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/maryland-issues-insurance-rates-among-lowest-in-us/2013/07/26/724e55f2-f612-11e2-a2f1-a7acf9bd5d3a_story.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/...ory.html</a> (9) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://marylandhbe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MHC-Individual-Market-Rates-Analysis-Release-July262013-FINAL.pdf">http://marylandhbe.com/wp-cont...INAL.pdf</a> (10) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://marylandhbe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MHC-Individual-Market-Rates-Analysis-Release-July262013-FINAL.pdf">http://marylandhbe.com/wp-cont...INAL.pdf</a> (11) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ctmirror.org/story/2013/07/25/new-insurer-lowers-proposed-rates-obamacare-health-plans">http://www.ctmirror.org/story/...th-plans</a> (12) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/jul/26/health-exchange-insurance-plans-cost-less-las-vega/">http://www.lasvegassun.com/new...as-vega/</a> (13) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2013/MarketCompetitionPremiums/rb_premiums.pdf">http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/rep...iums.pdf</a>
Originally Posted By Ivan45 Glad to see labor unions starting to oppose obamacare. There is hope afterall
Originally Posted By Ivan45 Roof workers and treasury workers . There are more coming out each day. Is that good enough for you?
