Originally Posted By YourPalEd I have a better grasp of reality, obviously. I have been continually proven right throughout my life so that now, i don't let control freaks like you bother me, at all, that is, unless i want to have some fun, hee hee. It's easy to know when right is right and wrong is wrong. I think the hard part was learning to admit when i'm not completely sure. Once i got that licked life became easy. This one is a no brainer. When you are put in charge of a church, you are not being given the right to change the 10 commandments. You repress your own ego, and subservantly observe, and love God, by continuing the traditions of the church, as the head of the church. Don't you? That includes not changing the 10 commandments, even though you could have written them so much better, and promoted your new version of the bible at the same time. Sorry, only a fool or child would even consider changing Pirates, unless, it is to change a few scenes back to their once politically correct forms. The politically correct form is the way Pirates opened, as created originally by the artists who made the ride possible, or as close to it's original form in 1968 as one can get. Tasteful embellishments, that show respect for the original artists could be allowed, but creating a new story, and adding the movie icons as the main centerpiece, should be considered a sin.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 ""Tasteful embellishments, that show respect for the original artists could be allowed, but creating a new story, and adding the movie icons as the main centerpiece, should be considered a sin."" Exactly, this is NOT tasteful or enchaning. Its VULGAR. WDI has NO respect for even the 2nd generation Imagineers. Since they have NO ideas of thier OWN they have to destroy everyone elses to justify thiers. And hoping they sell more merch in the process.
Originally Posted By Nobody Sometimes I wonder if "certain guests" at "certain facilities" have designated computer time, or full access throughout the day.
Originally Posted By knoxvelour <<I have a better grasp of reality, obviously>> Are you sure about that? <<This one is a no brainer. When you are put in charge of a church, you are not being given the right to change the 10 commandments.>> So you're now equating Walt Disney with God? That's what I'm getting from this. At any rate, if you're put in charge of the church, no you don't have the right to rewrite the 10 commandments. However, you do have the right to rip out the pews, replace the altar and order new stained glass windows to be put in. Walt was a man with great drive and vision, but he was just that. A man. One who has long since left us. If maintaining the oriiginality of the rides he had a hand in creating was so important to him, then he should have stipulated that in his will. He didn't, so we get some enhancements to an already great ride.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 ""If maintaining the oriiginality of the rides he had a hand in creating was so important to him, then he should have stipulated that in his will."" He didnt HAVE Too. Cause he left men who he KNEW would honor his vision and respet it. Walker, Tatum, and Miller kept the falme buring long after and kept us from psychos like Braverman until Pressler was unleashed.
Originally Posted By knoxvelour <<He didnt HAVE Too. Cause he left men who he KNEW would honor his vision and respet it. Walker, Tatum, and Miller kept the falme buring long after and kept us from psychos like Braverman until Pressler was unleashed.>> So Walt was countng on them being immortal to forever keep a watchful eye over his beloved park? I highly doubt it. There are procedures and provisions in place if Walt really wanted to preserve anything in the park long after his demise. If he didn't choose to do so, then it wasn't very important to him obviously.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd I agree 100 percent, DLFAN79. Sad so sad. Disneyland used to be about making people happy, instead of hurting them. They've also lost my money on Pirates 2 and 3. I saw the first, and didnt like it. I didnt get the dvd, or even rent it. I thought i would go to the el capitan for Pirates 2, now i have no intention of ever seeing it or 3, in the theatre or on dvd. If someone gives me the dvd of any of the films, i will never put them on. If they are watching it at their house, i will leave, or talk throughout the movie. I will only go to the theatre to see one of the Pirate films if someone gives me a free ticket. And that does not include paybacks, no paybacks.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd I think you will be arrested if you touch one tile at the vatican, or even take a picture.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 ""I think you will be arrested if you touch one tile at the vatican, or even take a picture."" Well we could always hope some CM could uum, AHEEEEMM, have an 'accident' w/ Jack Sparrow. AHEEEEM!!!! Opps..................
Originally Posted By YourPalEd I think the problem is some people can only think 2 dimensionally, like a painting. They are incapable of seeing Pirates as the 4 dimensional art object it really is. First of it's innovative kind, actually.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 ""They are incapable of seeing Pirates as the 4 dimensional art object it really is. First of it's innovative kind, actually."" yes it was the first TRULY IMMERSIVE experince in DL and in the industry in general. NOTHING had EVER been done on its scale and even things like INDY and SPIDEY dont come close to the ginaourmesness oif PoTC. But dinky chair ride systems in front of a IMAX screen is cool! ....................
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Tasteful embellishments, that show respect for the original artists could be allowed>> Who exactly decides what constitutes tasteful embelishments?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Am I the only one here who sees that good old Ed is giving us a pile of crap? He is playing a game and you are all playing along.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 ""Who exactly decides what constitutes tasteful embelishments?"" WED decided that loooooooong ago, and WDI 86-95 respected that.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Umm, WED doesn't exist anymore, at least not by that name. It's called WDI now, and you don't respect those guys, so I ask again, who decides?
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<If you were a true fan you would understand. Sorry you're not capable.>> Actually the first person that would completly disagree with your POV would be Walt Disney himself. If something didn't work well, he would be the fist to tweak it or simply rip it out. Ever hear of Phantom Boats or the View Liner? Anyway, YourPalEd good luck in getting your point across to WDI, I'm sure that they are all ears.
Originally Posted By kennect No Road, I get it....But what I don't get is why does anyone even care what he says....This was a fun read but nothing more....Same story on the DCA forum when he called for action from the Gov. to reopen Ca. Screamin....The guy just isn't with it for one reason or another...Not sure what the reason and I really don't think I want to know what the problem is....Then again he was in the gayday thread talking about giving gay cast members a hard time...Apparently he has issues with anything relating to Disney theme parks....
Originally Posted By Capstan Maybe he just doesn't like to see good art trashed by homogeneous mercenaries....
