Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "If you were a true fan you would understand. Sorry you're not capable." Thank goodness. I was worried for a second.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Okay, at the risk of being admin'd I'm going to go ahead and say it: Ed and DLFAN79 are crazy.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd As for crapshoot's post #97, <<Actually the first person that would completly disagree with your POV would be Walt Disney himself. If something didn't work well, he would be the fist to tweak it or simply rip it out. Ever hear of Phantom Boats or the View Liner?>>> Yes i have heard of those, and those were failures as rides, or at least not as successful, as Pirates. Pirates was a success, and still is to this day. Pirates is not only a successful ride, that needs no changes, it is the MOST successful attraction ever, which is why all argument for change is ludicrous. It is the largest success of any amusement park ride ever! Again, it's a case of those with no talent, gloming on, taking credit for, while actually destroying a work of art. It fails because spiritually, morally, artistically it is wrong.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss While I think the changes to PotC sound exciting, I would be in favor of retro-Imagineering all of Disneyland to say, 1967, IF they also brought back the ticket books and the prices that went with them!
Originally Posted By YourPalEd Look at the smear campaign started by all the Karl Rove wannabee's. Ha hahah, so ignorant, so sheep like, pathetic. Makes sense that ignorant people imitate ignorant people, while inteligent people don't need to copy anyone. I guess these kinds of people, who imitate, who don't have the tools, or abilities, to discuss things on their own honestly, these kinds of people always, resort to lying, attacking, and smearing. All base qualities. Since they are too lazy to actualy grow spiritually, and show an appreciation for God's gift of life, the smearers can only belittle, which unlitmately lowers the quality of their life farther than those they smear. The only person a smearer should be insulting is themself. I guess it's fear that clouds their minds. Fear of the unknown keeps them from admiting the truth of the known. An intelligent person smears only the smearers. I feel sorry for the smearers, so i guess i'm not that intelligent. Smearers, they are so small minded, it's so sad when you actually meet one. They live in such small worlds, like little jail cells of the mind. Well, what do you expect from cowards. Not much, and that's what you get.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss If "we" are so small, why are you so afraid of a little change? Whose mind is holed up in a cell exactly? I'd say you better check the mirror.
Originally Posted By Westsider >>"While I think the changes to PotC sound exciting, I would be in favor of retro-Imagineering all of Disneyland to say, 1967, IF they also brought back the ticket books and the prices that went with them!"<< Sounds cool. But to really make it work, you'd also have to bring back all of the rules and regulations for Guests and CM's from 1967. Men with long hair over their ears or past their collar wouldn't be allowed in the Park. Girls in mini-skirts might also get a talking to from a Main Entrance Lead. Some of the trash most people now think is acceptable to wear in public wouldn't be allowed in the gates. CM's wouldn't be allowed to wear anything bigger than a size 12 for women, and about a 38 inch waist for men. If you exceeded those sizes, you'd have to go out on a 6 month medical leave to try and lose weight before you would be allowed back to work to be seen onstage in front of Guests. (That language is actually still in the Union contract for Attractions, but the Company no longer enforces it.) All of the hostesses would be kicked off the Jungle Cruise and the Canoes, and the hosts would be banned from StorybookLand and the Tiki Room. And if a CM deviated from his script or spiel like some 21st century CM's do (Maynard?), that CM would be terminated long before he or she could build up a fan club devoted to their bizzare behavior. The Walt quote "Disneyland is the star, everything else is in the supporting role" would still be respected. There would be no ECV rentals, and someone visting in their own wheelchair would simply be told that they weren't allowed on many of the attractions. You know the two parallel lines leading to the loading dock in Pirates? In the 60's and 70's those were actually split into 4 lines, in the same amount of space. So if you're planning on going on Pirates and your a little chubby, you better think twice before you get wedged in the queue. And when you buy a Coke at the Plaza Inn, you will get 8 ounces served with some ice. There will be no 20 ounce cups with unlimited refills. A soft drink is 8 ounces, and most food portions will be much smaller. There also wouldn't be an Annual Pass that allows you to visit the Park a couple dozen times per year for a tiny percentage of the cost of the daily admission. You would need to shell out cash each time you wanted to visit, and then shell out more cash for individual rides. And the Tiki Room would be the most expensive ride ticket in the whole park, even more than Pirates. If you uttered a swear word out loud (especially in front of a lady), or tried to stand up or misbehave on a ride, you'd be thrown out of the Park with no questions asked. When a ride broke down, you wouldn't get a pass to cut to the front of the line at another ride to make up for your horrible hardship. All you would be given is your ride ticket back if you'd already passed the turnstiles. If you'd waited in line for 60 minutes before the ride broke down, you'd get a smile and a "Sorry folks, but these things happen" as the big solution to your wasted time. There would be no pandering to everyone's insistence that they were more special than others because they are... Staying at the Grand/A Club 33 member/A Premium Annual Passholder/Once got a Christmas card from Tony Baxter/Have been coming to the Park since the invention of the telephone/etc. If people really want to resist change and preserve Disneyland in a block of lucite for all eternity, then we need to do this 100% instead of just picking and choosing the things that shouldn't change for our own personal reasons. If we want to set the clock back to 1967, then there are going to be a lot of little luxuries and modern conveniences that need to go away.
Originally Posted By Westsider And for the record, as someone who works Pirates, I'm looking forward to the changes. At first I was concerned, but the more I hear from people attached to the project who have been talking to the Leads, the more I like about it. It's going to be a lot of fun, and really impress people, while still maintaining the core concept of the ride and it's main features.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>as someone who works Pirates<< Wha??? Harris and Pressler are back??? Bu-dum-bump. This has been a Cheap Shot Theatreâ„¢ post. G'night!
Originally Posted By Imagineer This I heard that Iger wants to rip out all the original pirate characters and replace them with "Pixar" Pirates. Buzz, Woody, Flik, Mike, Sulley and the Incredibles etc. would all be there wearing their pirate garb and singing the "yo ho" song lead by Captain Jack Sparrow! If this is true then Iger is a real genious! This will greatly improve and bring the ride into the 21st century! I can't wait! Also they will add rock and rap songs to update the attraction. And it will now be set in the future so that they can use some of the characters from Treasure Planet as well. R2D2 and Threepio from Star Tours will also make a guest appearance aboard Jabba the Hut's spacebarge. And you thought that Iger was a non creative, idiot CEO who had no vision! ;-)
Originally Posted By YourPalEd They truely are sick changes. It's hateful, plain and simple. People who don't appreciate toys, who have no business working at Disneyland. Small minded people, who trivialize, and find comfort in the mundane. They have a lot of company when it comes to being mundane. Only a fool thinks putting a mustache on the mona lisa is a good idea. Fire anyone who thinks Pirates should be changed, and fire them immediately. They have no reason to be working for the company.
Originally Posted By Westsider >>"Fire anyone who thinks Pirates should be changed, and fire them immediately. They have no reason to be working for the company."<< You'll want to contact Tony Baxter Friday morning and tell him to clean out his office. He was the one who was in charge of the last few changes to Pirates; the infamous "PC rehab" of Spring, 1997 and a subsequent rehab in Winter, 2000 when some other animatronics were added and effects changed. There have been other changes, additions and deletions over the decades, but those last two rehabs are the most recent when animatronics have been removed, replaced with new ones, audio tracks changed, and effects added or deleted. Tony Baxter did those last two rehabs, so give him a ring and tell him he doesn't deserve to work for Disney.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<They truely are sick changes. It's hateful, plain and simple. People who don't appreciate toys, who have no business working at Disneyland. Small minded people, who trivialize, and find comfort in the mundane.>> Sounds to me like there will be a couple of less folks in line for Pirates. OK
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 ""Tony Baxter did those last two rehabs, so give him a ring and tell him he doesn't deserve to work for Disney."" HAHA! How ludicrous WestSider. ESPECIALLY considering u r a CM and i am a WestSide (Ad/Lib) CM at MK as well!! Tony did a great job on the rehabs. They were NOT intrusive, he kept ONE turntable of pirate chasing wench. He added MORRRE AAs from WoM, BETTER FX, etc. Even if they were just adding Jack, i do NOT see HOW u can accept the removal of ORIGINAL audio, narration, and AAs, as THIS rehab will do.
Originally Posted By Blacksheep Uncle anybody else notice that those folks that keep spewing those baseless arguments and random attacks on other peoples intelligence, taste, etc. seem to need to fall back to political name calling???
